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Murdering Thanos in the beginning

posted 5 years ago by BrunoAntony (1198)
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By far the most interesting part of the film was the way that the Avengers hunted down a weakened Thanos, who was living a simple, pacifist lifestyle on a remote farm.

Not only do they ambush him and cut off his arm (fair enough, considering how destructive he’d been in the past), but Thor executes him while he is clearly crippled, weakened, offering no resistance and no real threat. Not only does he destroy the Stones to remove his own temptation to further change the universe, he also expresses remorse over the way he treated Nebula.

I actually thought the film might explore some lingering guilt the team might feel over basically carrying out a revenge murder on a former opponent who had no interest in fighting back ... particularly Thor, who is probably used to honorable combat as a 1000-year old warrior.

Alas, they didn’t. And it seemed like the film went out of its way to make “past Thanos” cartoonishly psychotic (with a ridiculously big sword) to make the murder of his future self by the “good guys” seem more justified.

[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 5 years ago

If you going to troll...at least try to be clever....

This is one of the worst attempts I've ever seen at trolling.

I can actually some what respect clever trolling....But This was just Stupid....

I'll actually think you were trying to be Clever, But Jesus You failed miserable....This just came off as Dumb.

To be clever theres got to a certain truth to what your saying or you at least need to make people somewhat see your side....

This was just So STUPID.

This is not an exaggeration, You should delete this thread and hope not many people read it...

Literally 2/10 ...just a MOUNTAIN size fail here

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

I'll actually think you were trying to be Clever, But Jesus You failed miserable.

I can’t believe you have 2000+ posts on these message boards and you’re still posting comments that are this inarticulate...

LOL

[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 5 years ago

I can’t believe you have 2000+ posts on these message boards and you’re still posting comments that are this inarticulate...

^^^^

your more than with in your right to insult me to try to ease the embarrassment of this awful fail...

But all I ask is, In the future if your going to continue trying to troll....Please try to be clever or at least better than this.

PS.....I highly recommend you DONT continue trolling in the future....honesty it truly can result in nothing but Embarrassment for you because your so awful at it!

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Please, learn how to type in English.

[–] TheGothamCat2007 (44) 5 years ago

Exactly! Billbrown never bothers to use proper punctuation or proof read his post before posting them, for example he'll put well when he really menns "we'll" which makes it a completely different word... I do believe that billbrown has some degree of mental disability to the point where he can operate a computer to some degree but not much else, LOL! I wouldn't be surprised if billbrown got held back a couple of grades in high school cause I was having trouble passing English.

[–] Juschill (781) 5 years ago

FYI - There's a big difference between "your" and "you're".

[–] Recognizer (386) 5 years ago

Well, given he'd killed half the universe, I wouldn't be taking any chances. And they didn't go there merely for a revenge kill - they wanted to obtain the stones so they could undo what he'd done.

Once they find that Thanos destroyed the stones they had no further use for him, and Thor simply executed him for the murderer that he was - a perfectly justified and reasonable execution in my book.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Since when do the Avengers execute defeated supervillains?

[–] faqbaby (53) 5 years ago

When they kill half of the universe

[–] galahadfairlight (414) 5 years ago

So what about all the billions of lives Thanos extinguished that also lead pacifist lifestyles?

Was what Thanos did "honourable"?

They executed someone responsible for the deaths of billions and who felt no remorse for what he had done.

This is a nothing thread that goes no-where, seems contrarian for the sake of it.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

So the Avengers can do it because Thanos did it?

I don’t think you know what “contrarian” means...

[–] galahadfairlight (414) 5 years ago

I forgot the bit where the Avengers murdered BILLIONS of people and were not sorry about it, and also did their level best to ensure it couldn't be undone.

YOU are the contrarian.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

How?

Also, Thanos indicated that he was capable of remorse literally as he was beheaded by Thor.

[–] galahadfairlight (414) 5 years ago

Who cares what feelings Thanos was capable of. He was also capable of murdering BILLIONS across the galaxy and then when out of his way to try and prevent what he did from being undone.

Theres no defence of that, theres no "but he was wounded and a pacifist", he's still a murdering psychopath, who at any given time in the future may decide to do more damage because maybe he hadn't quite done enough.

Somehow saying "I am inevitable" doesn't suggest much sorrow.

Sorry, you lose this argument on so many different levels, I have no idea why you persist.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Who cares what feelings Thanos was capable of

Obviously the writers of “Infinity War”, since they devoted so much time to exploring the character’s motivation. I’m guessing that they thought intelligent audience members would appreciate it, too.

You said Thanos felt no remorse. I said he did... and cited dialogue to prove it.

Thanos also said he destroyed the gauntlet, crippling himself, to remove any temptation to further tinker with the universe.

You don’t seem to have paid any attention to this film. Yet, somehow, you think you’re winning an argument.

It must feel nice to be so oblivious.

[–] galahadfairlight (414) 5 years ago

It doesn't matter what Thanos' motivation was, or how to some people it might seem quite reasonable, he murdered billions of people on his own whim.

And who cares if he felt remorse? The "remorse" he felt still doesn't alter that he murdered billions and then went out of his way to prevent anyone changing what he did. Thats not remorse, thats calculated murder.

Your idea of remorse is quite different to mine, "I am inevitable" doesn't suggest any kind of remorse worth a damn, sounds more like defiance to me.

You claim Thanos destroyed the gauntlet to remove temptation..... it wasn't to stop him from tinkering, it was to stop the Avengers from undoing what he did!

You seem to think that simply because Thanos felt remorse is some kind of mitigating circumstance for him not being killed by Thor.

You're quite wrong.

One of us paid attention to the movie, the other one thinks he did and is selective over what remorse is.

Saying "I am inevitable" counters any remorse you think he had.

[–] alienzen (1929) 5 years ago

Have you forgotten that Thor pledged to kill Thanos after he murdered his brother and best friend?

And why are you fine with Thor wielding an axe, but think that Thanos wielding a sword is stupid? Not to mention that Ronan wielded a huge hammer in GotG. Oh the entire Wakandan army wield spears.

[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 5 years ago

Because Thor has always wielded a hammer and Thanos was given a sword, just for this film, to sell more toys.

Also, name another time when Thor has executed a wounded, helpless opponent. I’ll wait.

[–] alienzen (1929) 5 years ago

You can wait as long as it takes you to think of another time Thor said 'you'll die for that'

Thanos had to have a sword, otherwise the battlr at the end would have lasted as long as his encounter with Thor in Wakanda.

[–] ExTechOp (2757) 5 years ago

Thor did it before anyone could stop him. It's not like they debated the point.

What's more, it's clear that Thor was NOT satisfied with his vengeance at that moment, and certainly not later when the shock of defeat turned him into the Big Lebowski (who in actuality shaved all his hair off and changed his name to Stane)

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

They needed him gone for 2014 Thanos.

[–] movienchill31 (222) 5 years ago

Why is this even a thread/topic? We're supposed to feel sorry because Barney the dinosaur wanna be felt remorse and Thor killed him? Um no, I was happy. Did you not see this idiot wipe out millions of people for his own personal vendetta/benefit? Did you not see this idiot had no remorse for what he did to innocent people? He deserved to die.

[–] Delorean1991 (1) 5 years ago

Hey Bruno

I feel the same way you do about the beginning.

We spend a whole movie learning about his backstory, motivation and goals and get to know his character very well. Then they chop off his head at the start of the film. All that character development is gone and we get a completely different Thanos, character wise, for the rest of the film.

I've been telling my friends that the best part of Infinity War was Thanos and the worst part of Endgame was Thanos.

Disappointed!