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What's up with the hate?


I myself saw it and loved it.I know that people have different opinions they may not like the film but really, What's up with all this loathsome hate?

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I think it is because it is winning so many awards, that there is a backlash and more hate than expected. I thought it was a great film, but not the best of the year. Moonlight and Manchester By The Sea are better films, but La La Land is winning everything.

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La La Land is the best film of the year. It is so different than all of the other movies. The hate comes from people who probably thought films like Deadpool should have been nominated.

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have you seen Moonlight and Manchester By the Sea, modica? La La Land is great, but I don't think it has the same power as Moonlight or Manchester By the Sea.

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I have seen all the movies and I still think La La Land is the best. It made me happy. All of the movies nominated for BP were really good. What a year!

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It's because it is about a jazz pianist.

Jazz ties with classical as being the least popular music in America, as well as most parts of the world (it accounts for less than 1% of music sales).

That's going to piss a lot of people off, unfortunately.

How many movies are about a jazz pianist and an actress? I'll bet not many.

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I'm not a jazz aficionado, but I connected to his passion and loved the film. A friend who I saw the film with loved the
jazz fusion section despite the clear intention to diss it. But he loved the film too. So I don't think the jazz element was
a big factor.

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The first half of the movie is like an old school frank Sinatra flick, o was loving it. Then they the second half of the movie was horrendous and the characters stopped saying good lines. This movie deserves everything it gets. Including the hate. It's like they only had a script for the first half movie. My wife dragged me to see this and I really was surprised I liked the first half of the movie. "I'm letting life hit me till it tires out." Is a memorable line worthy of the most classic of films. But oh no. the second half is the worst experience I've had in cinema in awhile. Just ran out of steam big time. By the time it's revealed that she dumps him as soon as she gets successful I had given up on it being a good movie. It started off really strong though. Of course my wife said it didn't matter what happened to the characters it's about what you feel. So who knows what that was.

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Why do you feel it was a bad movie once she's successful? Did you find that part of the plot implausible?

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Not implausible. But the last thing I want from a movie is reality. Especially a movie that starts with people dancing on top of cars. I can pinpoint the movie took a sour turn. When he looks at the ceiling and sees a water stain in the corner. If the second half had some good dialogue I would excuse it. The dialogue got noticeably worse as the movie progressed. "Where are we?" She asks him towards the end. Even my wife laughed at that. If your going to end a film the way this one ends, there needs to be a knockout final line. King Kong. Casablanca. Chinatown. The bad ending has to have a good line. They should have given Ryan a line at the very end. The movie itself alludes to not having a script towards the end when she is in the audition. Then the writer at the pool party is also another clue. I think they winged the second half

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I'm only half way through the movie. Can't say when i'll ever get to finishing it. I pretty much hated it straight from the opening number. The subject matter doesn't interest me, so it's already got that working against it, but more than that, it's not even a good musical. I guess it's ambitious on what it attempted to do on a clearly limited budget. The whole thing just felt like a wanna be Baz Luhrmann production. I probably would have been more open minded about it if it wasn't so hyped. Anyhow, I just sort of lost interest in the characters and story completely half way through.

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Have a try seeing it in a theatre with huge sound and a massive screen. All in one sitting. That will give you a much greater impression of the movie.

Imagine watching a Baz Luhrmann movie in chunks on an iPad. Not a great experience, is it?

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I don't think it's hate' I think a lot of people, like me, just didn't think it was that good. My reaction was "Meh".

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I was hoping that they would end up together. He went through the whole ordeal to drive down to CO (15.5 hours from LA!). Problem is, she's casting in Paris, while he's still state-side ramping up his jazz career. Plus, I still don't know when this movie takes place... I guess no cell phones and when domestic calls, let alone international were costly? OTOH, given it's a movie, I was hoping they could at least make the long distance relationship work out. It's only 3 months being apart.

Oh well. At least they each had a happy ending apart.

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For me, it was that Emma Stone isn't that good a dancer and olny a so-so singer, and in a song-and-dance movie, that's a cardinal sin. I came into it thinking I was not going to like Ryan Gosling, but he turned out to be the best thing about the movie, and I mean that in a good way.

Also, the story is paper thin. She goes away, and it's suddenly 5 years later, and she's married to someone else and has a child. What the hell happened there? Did she have an accident and develop retrograde amnesia?

In a way, she's made out to be a shallow, vacuous bitch who spat upon the man who was willing to let her go to pursue her dream, all the while professing her love for him...

In that way, it's VERY Hollywood accurate.

..Joe

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I didn't hate it, but it didn't have any memorable songs, and the dancing of the two leads was obviously amateurs who had been intensively drilled, not experienced professionals. The first half or two-thirds of the story was entertaining enough, but the latter part wasn't as good. After all the hype, it was just a disappointment. I think it probably appealed more to people who haven't seen the great musicals of the 1930s through 1950s.

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The first half makes it seem like an old-fashioned boy-meets-girl movie, so when the viewer realizes it's about two people who put their careers ahead of romance, it's disappointing. That and the extreme critical praise gets the objections flowing.

Not only does the ending defy everything that we've come to expect from a cheerful musical, it's no fun. Of course I understand that it's the right ending for a film about modern showbiz wannabes, that the ending is an insightful commentary on modern LA and the entertainment industry... but that doesn't make it enjoyable.

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I enjoyed the ending, because they helped each other, still loved each other, but really didn't belong together and they both knew it. There is something refreshing about that.

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I don't think I've ever heard anyone else say that they loved the ending, which tells you a lot about audience responses right there.

Okay, I understand the ending, this wasn't a movie about a great romance, this is a movie about a relationship that helped two ambitious people hit the big time, because in modern LA romance is dead and relationships serve as career stepping stones. Which is a profoundly cynical subtext, and not something that I, or the average fan of movie musicals, is going to take to their hearts.

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