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$104 million Opening Weekend


Deadline just released this projection judging by today's matinee sales.

I have to say this is disappointing was expecting at least $115 million which was the lower end of expectations.

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Ya I'm thinking it will get between 110-115 Million when tonights numbers come in...

While i do agree, A 105 million dollar OW would be on the low end, With Thor 3 Its not going to be so much about its OW, This film has excellent reviews, excellent WOM and being universally called The Funniest MCU movie...Basically I see Thor 3 having Very Good Holds...

So if Thor 3 does come in on the low end, its still great, But I dont think anyone will be disappointed considering, This film should have Excellent Holds in the weeks to come

Its worth noting the major box office sites predicted between 100 and 109 Million for Thor 3....so its actually coming in right on target...Other sites suggested 115 Million + based off the fact that it was out pacing Spider-Man HC in presales....

But Those sites aren't as smart as the box office sites...Box office sites understand even though Thor 3 outpacing Spiderman HC, it doesn't mean Thor 3 would open higher, Spider-Man is A Much more "family" character than Thor...

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@bill Brown

Those are good points but the holds may not amount to much as Justice League is opening in less than two weeks.

I guess I got caught up in the tracking results indicating this would open around $120-25 million and this $104 million seems disappointing.

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Its pretty sad considering this is third Thor movie.

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whats pretty SAD?

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Its pretty sad considering the third Thor movie wont make a billion.

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Oh ok, your trolling...thought you were just slow for a second....

keep up the good work



PS, I did notice something quite astonishing not to long ago, you may considered it SAD, Literally everyone else Will consider it incredible, but hey to each his own....

Damn near every one of Marvel Studios Trilogies have Grossed more than The Previsions film....

Cap 1-369
Cap2-713
Cap 3-1.150 B+

Thor-449 M
Thor 2-649 M
Thor 3-800 to 850 Mi

IM-585
IM2-623
IM3-1.2 Billion +

GOTG-770
GOTG2-870 M

Its seems the trend will Also Continues With Ant-Man, Of course there is one exception AOU made slightly less than The Avengers

but the point is, Wow, somehow Marvel Studios has not only kept the excitement and Hype of each film in 4 different Trilogies, but astonishingly, The Hype,excitement and Turn out has Increased for each film...

Historically, if you look up box office for Trilogies in Hollywood, Its extremely hard to Continues to Gross More and More With each film.

Again you may find this SAD, but You are alone in this opinion...

for Example.

If the DCEU actually does somehow survive after JL...I highly doubt 5 to 7 years from now...will be looking at Box office results where WB made 3 Cyborg,3 Flash, 3 Wonder Woman,3 Aquaman films that all were more success than the other...

lol In fact I highly doubt we even get 1 Cyborg or Flash film....quite SAD

speaking of SAD, its now guaranteed JL Wont make 750 Million total....stop in think about this.

JL now wont even Make Half Of what The Avengers made....

The Avengers opened to 207, JL opened to 93 Million(Literally not even half)

The Avengers made 620 Million domestically, JL will be lucky if it gets to 240 M(Literally not even Half)

The Avengers made 1.5 B+, JL wont make 750 M(Literally not even Half)

The Avengers scored 93% on RT, JL scored 40%(Literally not even have)

The Avengers is getting at least 4 films, JL is dead after 1(Literally not even Half)

quite SAD

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Just because a movie makes a billion dollars doesn't mean its good. Even the Transformer movies made billions.

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Just because a movie makes a billion dollars doesn't mean its good. Even the Transformer movies made billions.

^^^

Jesus I haven't seen a 180 turn like this since my time on IMDB....

So first you started saying Its SAD Thor 3 didn't make 1 Billion(which clear indicates you think 1 Billion Is Good and Important)

then after I point out The Avengers Made 1.5 Billion(twice as much as JL)....Hilariously you do a complete 180, and change your stance to "1 Billion isn't important and doesn't matter"

I must say, this simply can't be you just MESSING up...you had have to be doing this on purpose now, You got to be reverse trolling and Intentionally saying absurd things and changing your stance on the drop of a time on Purpose....

I mean seriously who literally suggest a film should have made 1 Billion to be a success, and then in the next post suddenly says 1 Billion doesn't matter and is not important....

lol You Literally have 2 different stances, and in BOTH cases you found A way for them to NOT BE IMPRESSIVE toward MCU films....

lol Your not impressed by Thor 3 because it didn't make 1 Billion....

Yet your not impressed with The Avengers because making 1 Billion Isn't important....

for your sake I hope you were reverse trolling and did this intentionally....because if you honestly simply didnt realize you changed your opinions this severally , then you may be the worst troll ever


PS your right 1 Billion doesn't Mean A movie is Great....

But when you have a film that Grosses 1 Billion+, Gets Excellent reviews, Gets Excellent Audience scores, Has Excellent ratings on All Sites and are Widely considered 2 of the top 5 CBMs of all time....lol that Unequivocally Means the Films are in fact GOOD ....that is the case With Both The Avengers and Civil War...

If you want to argue Transformers arent good films even though they made 1 Billion, Fine the facts back you up...

continuhes in next post

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But theres literally not 1 thing you can point that doesn't SCREAM The Avengers and Civil War are good to Great Films films....

The Avengers and Civil War MADE 1 BILLION + because they were GOOD TO GREAT films, These films exceeded expectations, Because They had overwhelmingly positive Word of Mouth from great reviews that lead to HUGE HYPE and Great opening weekends, They then both had Great holds from Great Audience Scores and Overwhelmingly positive WOM...They are the complete opposite of The Transformers, THose films made 1 Billion despite being Bad Films, CW and The Avengers made 1 Billion Because they were Great films.

Do know know that between 2011 and 2012, NOt 1 box office site or Analysts predicted The Avengers to out Gross The Dark Knight Rises...In every single Summer or yearly Preview, The Dark Knight Rises was predicted to be the highest grossing movie of the year, All Predicted TDKR to make 1 Billion + and predicted The Avengers to make between 700 to 800 Million.

The overwhelming thought at the time was, NO one saw The Avengers performing Much better than IM movies, Thor and Cap 1 had just came out, did okay, but it was clear IM was the draw and no one saw how An Avengers movies could suddenly out perform an IM movies by 400 Million....

lol The Point here is, The Avengers very easily could have Been JL, The Avengers was not a for sure thing, It was not expected or predicted to make 1 Billion Let alone 1.5 Billion...The SOLE reason why The film Exploded was Because It was A Great film that had INSANELY Great Word Of Mouth, Marvel Studios did early fan screening 1 month before the film opened, The reactions from These Screening were "OH MY GOD" type reactions, Then Marvel Screen the film for critics 3 weeks early, and Critics Went crazy for it....The film Literally Built Hype to A FEVERED Pitch based off INSANE Word of mouth and reviews.

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If you dont like The Avengers or Civil War, thats fine you are entitled in your opinion, But The facts are you in a very small Minority....

You can not claim The Avengers and Civil War arent good movies, The fact simply in no way back you up....

You can say "In MY Opinion The Avengers and Civil War arent good movies"....

But The facts are irrefutable that BOTH The Avengers and Civil War are considered good to Great movies by The overwhelming majority, Literally over 90% of the people who watch these movies come away with the opinion they just watched a good to great movie....

So again I say, You are right, Movies do make 1 Billion and that doesn't mean they are GOOD....But That does not apply to The Avengers and Civil War, These films made 1 Billion + because they were Great and Literally all facts and data Unequivocally proves they are in fact good to great films...

You dont have to agree with these facts or data, You can completely believe Audiences got it wrong, You can believe "You are right and the films are bad and everyone else is wrong"....But you can't change The facts, The facts are you are in A very small minority and The Majority consensus is, The Avengers and Civil War are universally considered Good to Great films....

But seriously Nice try, The Old "Transformers excuses" was a big one back on IMDB....lol but desperate times call for desperate messages, what else can you do when you have 4 MCU films that made 1 Billion + and 0 DCEU films making 1 Billion....lol got pull something out of the hat, certainly can't except the truth, got to come up with a way to "Not Be Impressed"....Unfortunately you just didnt think it through, didnt realize The Transformers films and The MCU films Literally have nothing in common, While The Transformers movies made 1 Billion despite all facts and data point to them being bad movies, THe MCU film made 1 Billion With All Facts and data proving They are Good films....

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I think it's not higher because it's coming off a horrible Thor 2, and Thor himself has been missing for a long time (actually, so has Hulk). With missing characters and a disappointing sequel, it would be like trying to get excited for Terminator 3 if Terminator 2 was a mess. If this was Iron Man 4 with an ever-present and likeable Tony Stark, the opening would be through the roof.

But on the upside, MCU is doing well and the reviews are usually great for these movies, so whatever collective interest these Thor movies may have lost in places, it's also getting a helpful boost elsewhere, thanks to MCU's string of successes.

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You sound quite worried. :D

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Not worried as much as disappointed that the opening weekend number is this low.

I and many others were expecting an opening weekend of at least $115-120million.

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means little. And you had at least 2 sad events occurring in the USA. Also reflects on people's willingness to go to a theater.

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So you agree that this is underperforming?

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I don't take the opening weeks in the USA as a sign of success or failure. It's the general income from both the home market and the international one that counts in the end. And the International slice is bigger than the home market. So, no need to worry.

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Thor 3 is now being targeted to make between 115 to 120 Million ....

The late night numbers came in and they are pretty damn good....

I think they might actually even go higher, I bet Saturday has a better hold than they are predicting...I could see Thor 3 opening around 124 Million....

but anyways, this is a terrific result...especially after Thor 2...

Marvel Studios really knocked it out of the park with Thor 3....from Great Trailers to Adding The Hulk and The Planet Hulk Story line....

They really Made Thor 3 something special and really got audiences interested and invested...

IMO Thor 3 is looking at a total gross between 800 and 900 Million now...

Overseas is doing Great, It opened Slightly ahead of GOTG2 in the same markets, A 500 Million + overseas total is likely, and now With A 115-120 M OW, Thor 3 is probably going to make 280 to 330 Million dollarmDomestically

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Good, now QueenFan can quit her crying

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final numbers coming....set to make 120-122....

thats pretty close to what I was expecting, I thought based on the excellent reviews and great WOM ....Thor 3 would have a better Saturday than expected

This is incredible...

Thor 3 now set for A 300 Million Ish Domestic run and 800 Million + World Wide Gross

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I hope it has the legs to get to 300 mil Domestic and 800 million worldwide with Justice League coming in just 10 days.

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With Friday's $47M it should make $115 if not more. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4340

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We'll see.

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I was right, $121m and $55.6m in China.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4341

Among Thor's new markets this weekend, the estimated $55.6 million opening in China is the largest ever for a November release as is the film's estimated $5.2 million debut in India. Additional openings saw an estimated $10.8 million in Mexico, $8.9 million (including previews) in Germany, $3.5 million in Japan and $3.7 million in Russia. At this point in the release cycle, Disney estimates Thor: Ragnarok is tracking +8% ahead of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, +28% ahead of Doctor Strange and +59% ahead of Thor: The Dark World based on current exchange rates.

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So yeah... $121 million opening and it has already grossed more than $427 million worldwide?

Not bad. Not bad at all. Ragnarok is a winner in so many ways.

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Actuals are higher: $123m dom; $431m total.

Anyone else think Justice League might not beat it?

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JL won't beat it.

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I don't know what JL's legs will be like but it will most certainly beat TR's OW(at least domestically).

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don't doubt it will beat Thor domestically. But I seriously doubt it will beat it worldwide.

But you never know. If Suicide Squad is able to make the Box Office... yuk

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Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $122,744,989 28.5%
+ Foreign: $308,384,671 71.5%
= Worldwide: $431,129,660
Domestic Summary
Opening Weekend: $122,744,989
(#1 rank, 4,080 theaters, $30,085 average)
% of Total Gross: 100.0%
> View All Weekends
Widest Release: 4,080 theaters
In Release: 3 days / 0.4 weeks

431 million only in 3 days.

I still say it will do 1.2 billion [good word of mouth, great reviews, very entertaining movie, great actors... and Led Zeppelin. Kudos for being able to actually use a Led Zep tune]

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I still say no way, and it didn't make 430 million in 3 days. The biggest chunk is from international which opened a week earlier. The total will dramatically slow down from here on. it's now opened in most major markets.

At the very best, this tops out at 900 million, and I highly doubt that due to not being summer where this could really leg out. There is so much competition coming in the next few weeks that will slow this down. We could be looking at over 800 million if it continues to perform well in China.

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I stand corrected.

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The international opening was two weeks earlier with $109m.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&view=byweekend&wk=2017W43&id=marvel2017.htm

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