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Amateur movie buffs and 'critics' forced into supporting this film to maintain 'non-conformity'


When something is overwhelmingly disliked such people are forced into supporting it so as to not risk 'going along with the flow'.

Hence those select few claiming that anyone who takes issue with this disaster of a film 'didn't get it' ...

I had to laugh :).

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It's audience score of 41% on RT does not indicate "overwhelming dislike." In fact, it means that nearly half liked it.

I'll say that it was not the film I wanted it to be and I was disappointed with it. But I still walked away feeling like it was worth my time and I didn't regret seeing it. I'll never watch it again, but I'm glad I saw it once.

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What was the film that you wanted? Something like Avatar?

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Nah. But something that was a little more upbeat and didn't make me want to take a bottle of Zoloft halfway through.

The trailer I saw indicated a film that was a little more exciting and less depressing.

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Why are you against depression? Have you considered that maybe depression is the rational reaction to the circumstance of futile birth and existence and lack of meaning and purpose. Do you frequently want to escape disturbing thoughts or ideas through self medicating or by not thinking? Why?

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I think that film's greatest asset is its ability to provide escapist pleasures. I spend enough time being depressed in my real life about the real world that I don't turn to film to give me more of the same.

Regarding a "futile birth and existence and lack of meaning and purpose," I'm not convinced that there is no meaning or purpose to life. You're welcome to such a nihilistic worldview, but I'm not sure I share it.

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Well, first of all, ewww RT. That site besides ite already enourmous list of fails now only allow you to vote if you bought a movie ticket from a few specifical retailers, because noone elses opinion matters.

Secondly, the average rating is 70%, not 50%. This is because there is preference bias when selecting the movie to begin with. If people were forced to watch random movies you would get a 50% average, but most people will simply not watch a movie at all (and thus will not rate it) if it does not look interesting. This means that the actual average scores are biased upwards.

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People get so upset when they don't understand a movie. They are unable to accept the fact that they didn't understand it in order to protect their ego. They will even go to the lengths of fabricating conspiracy theories. The subconscious mind cannot accept inferiority. It cannot even consider that maybe, just maybe it's true that I didn't get it.

You didn't get it, and that's okay. There are plenty of films out there for you to get, like Avatar for instance, that's a good example of film that is gettable by the mass populace.

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Why do you believe this movie was hard to understand by some other people? It is so easy, TOO easy to understand, follow and "get". Why do you feel some don't get it? It's all very ploddingly laid right out and delivered on a boring silver platter in idiot speak. One of the simplest movies I've seen in quite a while.

Failure to bother explaining things, like a moon war we don't care about, or escape killer monkeys we don't care about, does not a DEEP, ungettable movie make.

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You should let those like The Argentinian know about this... posters like said Argentine claim this film flopped due to people not having “the patience for slow-paced, intellectual space films anymore.” (Tell that to the number of people who saw 2001: A Space Odyssey first or even some movie pundits today who live for slow-paced, thought-provoking films and they nonetheless had a hard time sitting through Ad Astra.) XD

Anyhow, I know we live in this sort of post-truth world where facts no longer matter, but if you can provide some evidence to support your wild claim/conspiracy, that’d be great. (Fuggetaboutit.)


Humans...

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Lots of people didn't like 2001 when it first came out. Many said it was too slow. Now the film is admired by many people. Times do change how people judge something.

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2001, while a masterpiece, is indeed too slow at times, most of the time.

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I was never bored with 2001 for any of its run time. Now the movie "IT" that bored me.

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I pretty much enjoyed it too. But still, it was very very slow, too slow sometimes. One particular scene that I ALWAYS fast forward is the psychedelic rainbow part. Always.

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The psychedelic part is the best. The music and the visuals are incredible. I have never heard anyone say they disliked that part until now. That is the part I am most excited to see whenever I watch it.

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I love slow paced intellectual movies (Moon is a great example of an exellent movie) but 2001 is the only movie that holds the record of me falling asleep twice trying to watch it.

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Or maybe some people just liked it. There are lots of crowd movies that the masses love that I just hate. Does that mean I should love it just because everyone does? Is that how it is done these days?

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I've found that it's the same with people who don't like a particular movie and have to voice their hatred of it because they want to fit in with the "woke" crowd.

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OP: you didn't get it. Plus, you are so concerned with "going along with the flow" that you could never admit it, even if you did get it.

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No but I did understand that yes indeed it's all disagreeable to a certain level of acceptance, provided that you refuse to deny it.

There I made as much sense as you just did.

Basically you're annoyed that you got called out.

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