If it is true that George Lucas is very unhappy with these new films and the direction they have taken, is it possible for him to ex-communicate them and banish them from the Star Wars Canon? Does he have that power?
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Humbug! Return to Oz was a remarkable film and portrayed the true Oz and is probable more canon than the vaudeville Technicolor 1939 version. I’ve read the Oz books, they are so dark! People die, death and danger are everywhere!
That said, I do get what you’re saying. I personally choose to ignore Last Jedi. Dunno yet about RoS...., we’ll see...
I am sure the contract he signed prohibits him from doing that.
shareWhat movies????
shareI think the only power over Star Wars he has anymore is "Thank you, Mr. Lucas, we'll take your ideas into consideration." But at least he's got enough money to buy a small country somewhere.
shareApparently there is a Lucasfilm/Disney Group that is in charge of what becomes canon and what doesn't. Seems strange that the actual creator (God) of the whole Star Wars universe doesn't get a say.
At least we all know these new films are not really part of the Skywalker saga. That concluded beautifully at the end of ROTJ.
If Lucas didn't make it, it's not canon. That's my stance.
shareEven if Lucas did make it, it's still not OFFICIALLY canon to me personally if it has Episode 1, 2 or 3 in the title.
shareLOL! I can respect that. I consider those "loose canon" in my mind--especially that Padme dying in childbirth crap.
shareExactly. And don't forget the amazing Obi-Wan literally standing there watching Luke and Leia being born scene whilst apparently later believing Luke was their last hope. Yoda has to remind him "No, there is another - saw her being born did you" because he cannot believe Obi-Wan has forgotten!
I think that was Uncle George's parting gift. A realisation that he'd screwed up the continuity of the PT so badly that they'd be impossible for genuine, real fans to consider them canon. That late scene in ROTS was just his way of saying let go of this crap, you don't have to accept this. And I for one respect George for that.
Wrong, the Prequels ARE canon. At least they tried new stuff in those movies than just rehashing the OT like the Disney crap did.
Lucas created the first six movies. Disney created 7-9. As far as I'm concerned, only Lucas' material is canon. That BITCH Kathleen Kennedy, MORON JJ Abrams and BASTARD Rian Johnson can go fck themselves.
shareSome interesting bits from Lucas here on the Expanded Universe -
In July 2001, Lucas gave his opinion on the matter of what is canon in Star Wars during an interview with Cinescape magazine:
There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There’s my world, which is the movies, and there’s this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe—the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don’t intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don’t get too involved in the parallel universe. ”
Further, in an August 2005 interview in Starlog magazine:
STARLOG: "The Star Wars Universe is so large and diverse. Do you ever find yourself confused by the subsidiary material that's in the novels, comics, and other offshoots?"
LUCAS: "I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions."
... Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."
Sounds like Lucas is disregarding anything outside his six films as a separate canon. In other words: there is HIS canon and there is "the other stuff" canon. I'm sure he feels the same way about the Disney films.
If anything, it sounds like he trying to find a nice way of calling all the stuff not written by him as "glorified fanfiction".
Pretty damming words from Lucas here : "I've left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That's because there isn't any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married..."
shareThose words have always stuck with me.
It's the same with the Force and afterlife. The Clone Wars show/Disney material all make it sound as if non-force users are absorbed into the force and have no afterlife when they die, leaving only certain select jedi as having an afterlife. Lucas, on the other hand, once said that Anakin was reunited with Padme and his family in the netherworld of the force after he died, meaning there IS an afterlife for all beings in his version of Star Wars--it's just that only jedi can come back to the mortal realms as a ghost.
As far as I'm concerned, if the father of Star Wars says Anakin and Padme were reunited, then THAT is what I'm going by--not whatever Disney or some other company says.
Apparently he didn't like the Expanded Universe novels.
shareOnly the Pope can decide what's canon. If he hates the sequels he will canonize Lucas, who can then uncanonize them.
shareNope, Disney bought everything, including the Lucas Story Group which controls cannon. He probably can't even shit-talk the franchise due to contractual obligations. He screwed-the-pooch on this one. If he was concerned about protecting the legacy, he should have willed the operation to his kids and hoped for the best like Charles Schultz with Peanuts. There wasn't much mystery to what Disney would do if they got their dirty mitts on it.
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