[deleted]


[deleted]


Much as I'd like to see it fail to hit $1B, it seems likely. It'll be the family film of Christmas weekend, and without competition in that vein except maybe from Jumanji. Disney of course will strongarm theaters into dedicating hugely disproportionate screen time to it, and commence the mother of all marketing pushes. Rey will be on every single screen and other 2d surface observable by the human eye between now and January.

It'll be those things, versus the combination of old fan boycotting and newcomer apathy. Personally I'd bet on ~$750M. But I'm probably biased. :)

If I were advising the "fandom menace" on strategy, I'd say sell your kids and families on Jumanji or even a Frozen 2 encore viewing, if planning a movie outing before Christmas; after Christmas, possibly add Spies in Disguise to that list.

reply

Why do the kids have to watch a movie in the first place?

reply

They don't necessarily. But lots of families go to the movies over Christmas.

On an unrelated note I'm seeing a trend of joke comments about looking forward to Cats. How funny would it be if SW boycotters somehow organized a movement to prop up that dubious movie instead, ha.

reply

The way I see it, it's dependent on if the kids want to watch it or not.

reply

Rey will be on every single screen and other 2d surface observable by the human eye between now and January.


Except she isn't. In fact, in my city and various others (judging by commentary on Reddit et al), there is next to no marketing taking place for Ep. IX, and it release in a couple of weeks. There's not even any marketing for it on services like Foxtel and Netflix. There's actually much more marketing for The Mandalorian, which appears on the sides of buses and on outdoor digital billbords.

Where Disney are actually putting their marketing dollars tells the real story.

reply

While all those are good points, sadly it'll pass $1 billion. This isn't a spin-off like Solo was with its bad casting and issues when filming the show, this is the final of the trilogy and then there's Palpatine in the mix. It'll get $1 billion for sure. Now if they somehow brought Luke back or something, that would be even better, one final stand against his father's mentor. Wonder if Jar Jar Abrams will make something epic like that happen and not make him drink monster tit milk like Rian Johnson (whatever his name was) did.

reply

I still wouldn't say it's guaranteed; it still carries the baggage of TLJ and I doubt true (ex-)fans are fooled by Palpatine's return signifying the revelation of some grand story plan, more like "in case of emergency, resurrect popular character".

And if the final cut is indeed as bad as the rumors I'd bet on another huge 2nd week BO drop.

reply

Not to mention the millions spent on extensive reshoots, with a dozen cuts being generated with pieces being jumbled around like a jigsaw puzzle. Who knows how much the movie has cost to make by now?

reply

There are no other cuts , this is all nonsense from silly youtubers

reply

I'm part of the Fandom Menace. Why should I believe YOU over THEM?

reply

Because there hate blinds them , the search the link internet day in day out , usually Reddit for anything that can sow discord, it’s utter nonsense, JJ himself is quoted saying the reshoots to less time than TFA

reply

Yeh because Jar Jar Abrams always tells the truth.

Again, they do not hate Star Wars or Disney, they hate what Disney has done to Star Wars, massive difference but you can't see that.

Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.

You do realise "Discord" means disagreement between 2 people, what is actually wrong with that, why can't people disagree. Are we supposed to blindly follow Disney like you are doing, no way in hell.

You say there hate blinds them, so does your loyalty to the great mouse.

These silly youtubers you like to mock would spend everything they had on a Star Wars product worth having, I don't think you quite realse that. They don't want to be negative and constantly criticise why would they, they want to watch a decent Sar Wars film which we are not getting.

You do realise they don't search anything, this is there job, they are paid to do it. Some of those silly youtubers are doing very well for themselves. They get sent links, they get sent videos. It is there job, they report it, just like any news network the only difference being they do pop culture.

You are so naive it is actually laughable, you are becoming a bit of a joke on this site. You keep repeating the same drivel time and time again.

What happens when the film is released and the rumours turn out to be true. I wait to see how you spin that because i know full well you won't own up to your mistake.

reply

if the movie is crap then ill come on here and say it just like I did with TL which was an abomination , don't believe everything you read from insecure youtubers wanting clicks

reply

Oh so they are now insecure.

You are a sad individual.

All you do is insult people.

reply

And the reshoots are part of the original production budget

reply

Keep telling yourself that.

Show me the books to prove it.

reply

According to Forbes and others reports are its £320 million, what's your production Budget from some random dude from YouTube 600 million?

reply

Do Forbes and you have access to Disney accounting books.

I highly doubt, in fact i am 100% certain neither of you do.

So how is your and Forbes answer correct but silly insecure youtubers who say the production budget has spiralled out of control be wrong. Odd that.

Burden of proof is on you. Show me how you know that the reshoots were in the production budget.

reply

Only if you show me that they werent , go

reply

Burden of proof lays on you.

You stated first that the reshoots are part of the original budget.

I don't have to prove anything.

Should never be so quick as to make a statement you cannot possibly follow through with.

Again, The burden of proof lays on you, Go.

reply

https://collider.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-reshoots-jj-abrams/?


Boom, and there goes the dynamite

reply

So no disney accounts showing the reshoots. That article just says there was more reshoots than the Force Awakens, that is not what you stated.

We are not discussing how many reshoots were performed. Your "boom" was a bit preemptive.

You stated and i quote "the reshoots are part of the original production budget"

Prove it!!!

reply

You know when a franchise is on its death bed, is when money becomes more of the discussion than the actual quality of the film itself.

Tick, tock, tick, tock...

reply

If a movie like Transformers can make a billion then I assume this one can too.

reply

This film will make over a billion. Most of the trash talking people will go to the movies and see it even if they claim not to like it.

reply

You never know, most people might go to see Cats instead.

reply

It will most likely hit around a billion, however how much more over a billion is the question? TLJ came in at $1.332 billion. It will be interesting to see if ROS can beat that. If it turns out to be a legitimately good movie maybe it can take in 1.5 billion. Worst case scenario though it should still take in $800-900 million.

reply

Theres little to no chance that this doesn't at least make $1billion at the box office, its the end to a trilogy, and as far as the Star Wars story/franchise goes, it has more importance than Rogue One or Solo, both of which would have changed nothing if they had not been made (for the record, I Love Rogue One!).

Theres enough curious people that will give in and see it.

However, Star Wars is in a position this Christmas where it doesn't have the Box Office to itself, and has potentially some VERY strong competition.

Now, I have absolutely no bloody interest in Cats, but I can assure you, the female audience is there for it.

Jumanji: The Next Level starts now, and if that plays anything like the previous movie, theres no reason to suggest it won't do a billion. Whether Cats has it in it to do that also is anyones guess, but Star Wars won't be the only choice this Christmas.

And therein lies its problem. If it in any way has a second weekend drop like The Last Jedi did, or drops siginficantly on its opening weekend in comparison to either TLJ or TFA, the competition Star Wars faces means it might only just hit a billion worldwide.

At this point, critic reviews are irrelevant. There is such a disparity between critics and the general audience that if the same WOM that harmed TLJ gets to Rise of Skywalker, then its entirely possible that the latter just fails to hit a billion.

I'm still confident that it hits a billion though, I think personally it will do slightly better than TLJ, but not by much, and when you consider that Rise of Skywalker is likely to be that much more expensive to make, it needs to do more than TLJ for Disney to not consider it a failure.

reply