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Madam Joshi

posted 6 years ago by Gastonian (946)
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Why did she let Luv kill her? She seemed smart enough to know thats where it was going, so why no attempt to defend herself?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

This movie was so inconsequential I don't even remember who Madam Joshi was.

[–] Gastonian (946) 6 years ago

I dug the movie. But she was Robin Wrights character.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

oh ok, well I guess she knew she was going to die, no point in fighting.

[–] Cheepshooter (672) 6 years ago

Then why bother posting about it?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

why not

[–] Cheepshooter (672) 6 years ago

I was halfway pulling your chain, but to post about something being too inconsequential to remember characters, but not too inconsequential to post how crappy you think it is on an obscure web forum struck me as funny.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

well that was when the film had just been released, it's been forgotten about now.

[–] bobbydallas (8059) 6 years ago

I thought the same... jesus Luv broke the glass in her hand just mortal kombat the person already! she is a lieutenant damnit

[–] DracTarashV2 (4475) 6 years ago

she is a lieutenant damnit

True, but Luv is a replicant. A very advanced one at that. Joshi didn’t stand a chance against her.

[–] ExTechOp (2749) 6 years ago

She knew she couldn't physically defend herself, so there's that.

But I also think there's a sense that Joshi is too tired, jaded and morally compromised to care anymore. She knows her death, like killing Deckard's child, is just part of the whole bargain she made to keep things running smoothly.

She seemed tired to me, is what I'm saying. I've felt that way myself from time to time.

[–] Batty67 (358) 6 years ago

Luv walked in and out of the LAPD headquarters...TWICE. To steal the bones (and kill the forensics tech) and than Lt. Joshi, after getting K's location. This was made possible by the world's wealthiest and powerful man (Niander Wallace) making it happen. Turn off/scramble cameras as needed, recall/threaten/bribe cops and the guard at her door, etc.

It looked like Lt. Joshi retty much lived in her office in the heart of what should have been the best protected place on the planet. Nope. She already knew someone, likely the replicant in her office, already waltzed in and out untouched. Joshi did not have a gun, but even if she did, Luv doubtlessly had one as well and would have shot her first. In short, as others noted: Joshi knew she was about to die and being smug was the only thing left to her, and she was and went out defiant "do what you have to do." Wonderful scene.

[–] LoveCatsHateDogs (1535) 5 years ago

...because she was just another of the film's completely one-dimensional, un-fleshed out characters with absolutely no personality? Another robotic line-utterer with zero interesting traits or colour? Notice how they even managed to make Gaff boring in this? She let Luv kill her because they probably needed Luv to kill someone else, to make Luv seem more menacing.