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The Hispanic Woman

posted 5 months ago by TylerAArse (2663)
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-Would've been nice to know what she needed. Thanks for the thread on here that clears it up.

-When Clay said, "I got another idea for a good time", what was up with the go to hell look from Amanda.

-What exactly did the deer know? Were they just trying to find somewhere to go?

-Why were the Tesla's driving themselves. Were they hacked? Where exactly did they come from. They all seemed to wanna go to the same place, which I assume would require GPS, which wasn't working. And I thought those self-driving cars had some type of accident detection junk.

-Archie losing his teeth was to show........what exactly. The sonic noise? The enemy was using bugs to maybe turn people into zombies? (and who the fuck names their kid Archie).

How can a movie be over 2hrs and not divulge anything. Wanted the audience to be in the dark along with the characters. Lots of talking, talking, talking. Needed some serious editing. Pretty much a waste of time.

[–] mobocracy (846) 5 months ago

Yeah, I think the general idea is that the Teslas were hacked and they were being intentionally crashed in a pile to block off the road.

And you're right, for them to get there they would need GPS, which wasn't working. I think a movie like this doesn't take its own premise seriously and try to operate within the mechanics of the world they created, so "GPS is down" except somehow for Teslas? It's maybe 50-50 if the writers even considered that or maybe believe they can navigate visually.

I don't think movies like this come into existence because the producer/director/writer wanted a film about what a major cyberattack would do. I think they use science fiction elements to just spin up chaos that they then use to drive whatever character driven drama they're actually interested in.

Archie got bit by a bug and presumably this is linked to his tooth loss, but we're at a loss as to WTF caused some random bug to make his teeth fall out. The deer is sort of the same way -- weird microwaves from a satellite are causing them to organize this way? Or is this some kind of mystical collective natural intelligence on display? Or is it something even more banal, like "Hey guys, let's have deer herd up and act creepy!"

[–] TylerAArse (2663) 5 months ago

I never considered "mystical".

[–] KutWrite (1220) 4 months ago

You're right about the GPS plot hole, except... if down, the Teslas would have some kind of "safe mode," which should bring them to a safe stop. The hacking (I took it) morphed that into the use of Teslas to clog the main arteries to further confound the Plebes' (as I also call them in my forthcoming book "World in Exile") and get them fighting among themselves.

What I doubt would work is the airplanes crashing without electronic connections. They still fly manually and autopilots can be disconnected with the press of a little red button on the yoke. Those pilots would see the plane in a dive (not a vertical unrecoverable one) and simply press that button and fly >> somewhere << manually. Even the alleged 9/11 hijackers could navigate across three states with ZERO help from electronic devices (said sarcastically).

Same with the oil tanker. As long as live humans were aboard, the tanker could be easily - at minimum - stopped offshore and an anchor dropped 'til they could formulate a better plan.

[–] mobocracy (846) 4 months ago

A lot of modern jetliners are fly by wire -- the controls are just glorified switches and position-sensors attached to buttons and levers which rely on a computer to send the signals to actuators which do the mechanical work of adjusting control surfaces and engine controls previously done by hydraulically-assisted mechanical controls.

I'm willing to mostly suspend disbelief and buy into the idea that the systems on modern jetliners could possibly become hacked enough that control inputs could be put into a non-responsive state remotely and result in the planes crashing.

Ships I'm even less convinced of. Some may have similar fly by wire controls, but unlike an airplane at 48,000 feet, the ship's engineers have complete, real-time access to the entire mechanical process and could either retain operational control or just shut off the engines. Or hell, just swing a sledgehammer or a cutting torch on the retainer holding the anchor out of the water, letting it drop, which I think would eventually stop the ship as the water got shallow enough and the engines couldn't overcome dragging several tons of anchor and chain on the sea floor.

[–] emori (3110) 5 months ago

(and who the fuck names their kid Archie).

Harry and Meghan

Son losing his teeth was beyond stupid plot line. Its was just for show and to show some "action" since nothing was happening in movie. So they needed some "horror tension" there and there. Thus Tesla scene, deers at the cabin, teeth and other. They have no meaning. Their purpose is to create tense atmosphere.

This is always the problem with all apocalypse movies. They create theme. This "World if falling down' plot. And then they don't know how to end it in satisfying way. So they just.....end it. Usually in the middle of scene. It feels like. I saw lots of those kind of movies. They never have satisfying end. Never.

Here they almost had some sort of "happy ending". All things considered. With finding bunker with food and it's understandable that adults will join the girl soon.

[–] DancingintheDark (1274) 5 months ago

Kevin Bacon explicitly stated why his teeth fell out, radiation released by sound waves, how this is possible, I’m sure I don’t know.

He said the same thing happened in Cuba, with the sounds, radiation and tooth loss symptoms.
The bug bite thing was simply a red herring

[–] Mattc164 (604) 5 months ago

Then why did only Archie’s teeth fall out and not anyone else’s? They were all in the same vicinity of the sound waves and radiation.

[–] DancingintheDark (1274) 5 months ago

Kevin Bacon was explicit on this as well, he said and I paraphrase, “….the same thing happened in Cuba, with the sound waves and SOME people experienced symptoms such as having their teeth falling out.”
Insinuating that the radiation poisoning affects people in different ways.

[–] SickSpazmoid (715) 5 months ago

We already discussed the GPS thing. There is an attack known as "GPS spoofing" and it does not matter if there was GPS service or not.

The noise is a reference to "Havana Syndrome", though I never heard of somebody's teeth failing out. Maybe it is possible when the attack is more powerful? But then I guess the teeth would be your least problem.

I think you are right about the animals. At one point there is a snippet from a news report about some climate disaster caused by the attack and possibly caused the animals to migrate. The characters interpreted the animals' behavior in a superstitious way. This is a major theme throughout the movie: characters becoming increasingly paranoid in circumstances beyond their grasp.

There some gems in this movie, but the execution is somewhat poor. Mr. Robot is a better treatment of similar themes.

[–] SickSpazmoid (715) 4 months ago

Now I read some interviews with Esmail to see his viewpoint. I'm usually not interested in this, because people are often unconscious about their own influences or simply don't want to spill the beans in order to appear original creators. And because it is fun to speculate about what it going on in movies, otherwise boards like this one would not exist.

Apparently he wanted to give the movie the qualities of a nightmare and with this he explains the deer and the teeth (you know, having a nightmare about one's teeth falling out is pretty common). He is also a big fan of M. Night Shyamalan and got inspired from the Signs about a disaster seen throughout the eyes of ordinary people.

[–] KutWrite (1220) 4 months ago

One thing about the name "Archie:" BUNKER. Get it?

The kind of joke a globalist like Obama would still be laughing over.

[–] KutWrite (1220) 4 months ago

SOMEONE PLEASE!

What does the Mexican woman say? I only got she was in a panic, something about her house.

The subtitles had no translation.

[–] fooman (288) 22 days ago

From Yahoo

“Thank God I found someone! I’m trying to get back to my home! I’m lost! I’ve been walking for a while! I need to use your phone! You’re the first person I’ve seen all day! We have to get out of here!

I just saw a plane that was spraying red gas in the vicinity. I saw some deer, more than 50. They were coming out of the woods. Please! I need to go home, sir. A military plane appeared and fled. There’s no one around! Is it a chemical attack?”