I agree with you, to a point. I hate the no kill rule they've imposed on Batman. It only originated in the first place back in the forties after a few pearl-clutching mothers wrote to DC after Batman racked up a comparatively high body count in a story called "The Giants of Hugo Strange" in 1940. Prior to that Batman killed people and used guns with no problem. I hate the no-kill rule because it can only work by something called writer's fiat. In reality, the simple, plain, indisputable truth of the matter is that no human being is so smart, so strong, so tough, so totally in control of events, that he can be sure of always facing adversaries smart and strong and tough and dangerous enough to be a real threat to him, and yet somehow never find himself backed into a tight enough corner that he will then be able to get out of it only by resorting to the most extreme measures, up to and including the use of lethal force.
That was why I had no problem with Batman killing some of those thugs in the warehouse fight in BvS. That said, killing in the gravest extreme is permissible, but Batman absolutely shoud NOT be cold-bloodedly executing people.
And Wonder Woman was set in WWI, not WWII; those were Germans, but not Nazis. Wrong war.
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asom (6558)
3 years ago
ooops, you're right about the Germans, my bad :D
but nazi or not, still were killed ...
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3 years ago
Batman is a vigilante. He should be going full bore Charles Bronson on the bad guys and leaving a trail of corpses. Frankly I would watch that Batman type movie, but the ridiculous never kill shit just brings up images of that shit show the A-Team where they would have thousands of bullets flying form machine guns all over the place but no one ever died. Death is a part of violence and this sanitized Mr. Rogers nonsense makes me want to vomit.
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Darren (1159)
3 years ago
No he shouldn't. There's already a vigilante like that in comics and movies: The Punisher. The Batman is not the Punisher, and he never was, not even back when he was still shown using guns and killing bad guys. If he did that, there is no way in hell Commissioner Gordon could possibly tolerate his activities, let alone cooperate with him. There is also no way he could work with any of the other heroes in the Justice League.
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[deleted]
3 years ago
Gordon popped up during the time when Batman was killing bad guys. The fact is if you are not the police and go out looking to catch or kill bad guys you are a vigilante. Gordon supported this from the start because at the time Batman was created people weren't snowflakes, they didn't give fuck about giving bad guys rights like Miranda this was a time when the police would catch a bad guy and beat the fuck out of him until he signed his confession or rolled over on his partners. So please don't start trying to fling the current snowflake attitudes onto what was in the past because it doesn't fly in the past.
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Darren (1159)
3 years ago
Batman was still never like that. In that very story I referenced earlier, "The Giants of Hugo Strange," even as he's shooting at a truck full of bad guys from the Bat plane, he says "Much as I hate to take human life, this time it's necessary." Killing was never the first resort. And even the looser law enforcement of the 1940s was not so brutal it would have tolerated Batman acting like Murder Incorporated. Again, if that type of character is your cup of tea, you've already got the Punisher.
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