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Christian Bale Confirmed as Villain


cant wait to see this even more excited still the best batman though


https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/tessa-thompson-confirms-christian-bale-will-play-the-villain-in-thor-love-and-thunder

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My guess is Gorr the God Butcher since it would be a perfect setup for Jane to take up the mantle.

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I dunno. They kinda combined Gorr with Hela in the previous movie.

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It seems that 'diversity' policies don't apply to bad guys...

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They do. That's how we got Killmonger, Mordo, and finally an Asian Mandarin.

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The "Asian" mandarin is played by Ben Kingsley: white male.

Killmonger is not the villain in Black Panther. He's a pretender to the throne, competing directly with TChalla. The real villain is Andy Serkis... another white male, of course.

Mordo, the same, he's not a villain in the movie. He's partially antagonist and partially an ally to Strange. The real villain is the Ancient One. Again... white.

Funny, you haven't been able to find a single example.

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"The "Asian" mandarin is played by Ben Kingsley: white male."

The above poster was referring to an Asian actor playing the Mandarin in the Shang-Chi movie. Also, Kinglsy is partially Indian and Jewish so he's not entirely white.

"Killmonger is not the villain in Black Panther. He's a pretender to the throne, competing directly with TChalla. The real villain is Andy Serkis... another white male, of course."

The Andy Serkis was in, what three scenes and died in the first act. The villain is very much Killmonger who employs multiple black henchmen and one black henchwoman. Also, M'Baku started off as a villain, even if he did join the heroes at the end. Then you have Black Panther's former friend turning on him and his actions were seen as villainous and cowardly. Oh, and the movie starts with Black Panther beating some black terrorists.

"Mordo, the same, he's not a villain in the movie. He's partially antagonist and partially an ally to Strange. The real villain is the Ancient One. Again... white."

Ancient One is not a villain, so I'm not sure where that came from. As for Mordo, the movie ends with him killing an innocent person, setting him up for future movies where he's the bad guy.

Also, Thor: Dark World had an African American playing Kurse, who is a villain. Then there's Korgath the evil Kree who appeared in the first Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain Marvel. Speaking of which, Captain Marvel had a villain who was played by an Asian woman. I almost forgot, Spider-Man: Homecoming had a black dude as The Shocker, Donald Glover as a criminal trying to buy weapons, and a Hispanic guy playing the gun-runner who will eventually be The Scorpion. And while he's not an out and out villain, Flash is still depicted as a dumb jerk but he's played by a non-white actor.

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Excellent post. Clearly cuckooxu doesn't keep up with Marvel news.

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- Kingsley looks white. He has been always hired to play white guys, not to play mestizos. In the politically correct woke world, he's considered as white. He doesn't look 'diverse' enough.

- Killmonger is not the villain. He and TChalla have a political disagreement, but Killmonger is just a pretender to the throne. He's at the same level than TChalla, no better, no wore, both just compete to be the leader.

- Mordo is not the villain. Yeap, in the last scene they could be setting up for future movies where he'd be the bad guy. But those movies hasn't happened yet.

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Kingsley played Ghandi, dude. He hasn’t “always played white dudes”.

As for Killmonger, Black Panther actively goes out to stop him and eventually stabs him in the gut. That is not something a hero does to someone unless they are a villain. Killmonger had some sympathetic motivation but that's no different than Loki or Thanos.

As for Mordo, they are absolutley setting him up as a villain for future movies. No "COULD" about it.

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Kingsley played Ghandi, dude

Well, that's true. Kingsley didn't always played white guys. In one of the 143 roles he has played, he has happened to play an Indian guy. In that case, by the way, woke complains appear specifically in the wiki as a case of a white guy doing 'racial blackfacing' 😄

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_brownface#Ben_Kingsley_in_Gandhi

As for Killmonger, Black Panther actively goes out to stop him and eventually stabs him in the gut.

Yeap. And that's just a pretender to the throne (T'Challa) killing the other pretender to the throne (Killmonger) so he can be the only pretender to the throne.

That's nothing new. It's a common way to solve dynastic disputes through History.

As for Mordo, they are absolutley setting him up as a villain for future movies

Sure. And the moment those movie appear, if they appear and if Mordo finally plays the villain, then we would have some 'diverse' character playing a villain. Until then, in Marvel movies, they only have played good guys o neutral ones.

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"Well, that's true. Kingsley didn't always played white guys. In one of the 143 roles he has played, he has happened to play an Indian guy. In that case, by the way, woke complains appear specifically in the wiki as a case of a white guy doing 'racial blackfacing' 😄"

Whoever complained about Kingsley is an idiot, then. Also, wikipedia isn't exactly the best source for info.

"Yeap. And that's just a pretender to the throne (T'Challa) killing the other pretender to the throne (Killmonger) so he can be the only pretender to the throne.

That's nothing new. It's a common way to solve dynastic disputes through History."

Whatever mental gymnastics you are going through, Killmonger is still meant to be a villain. Beyond that, you could just as easily use your argument to pretend Loki or Hela aren't a villain.

"Sure. And the moment those movie appear, if they appear and if Mordo finally plays the villain,..."

What do you mean "if and when"? Dr Strange II will begin shooting soon. The movie is already in production and Mordo is set to be in it. Considering Mordo is Strange's main villain in the comics and the last movie explicitly shows him turning evil and going off to kill anyone who uses magic, it's blatantly obvious he will be a villain in some capacity.

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Whoever complained about Kingsley is an idiot, then.

They're no idiots. They're wokes. And they do that because that's what their system of moral beliefs tells them to do.

Whatever mental gymnastics you are going through, Killmonger is still meant to be a villain. Beyond that, you could just as easily use your argument to pretend Loki or Hela aren't a villain.

But Loki is neither a villain! He's a narrative archetype called "shapeshifter", and sometimes another one called a "trickster".

Here you have an article about those archetypes. And guess the character they use as a prime example... Loki:
http://storyforgeproductions.com/archetypes-shapeshifter-and-trickster/

it's blatantly obvious he (Mordo) will be a villain in some capacity

He's black, so it's far from being that obvious. He's black, and making a black person a clear villain is considered a sin among wokes. So chances are by the end of Dr.Strange 2 Mordo will be among the good guys.

Who knows, it's even possible that this topic was the reason Scott Derrickson left Dr.Strange 2. He's no woke. It could have happened that Disney asked him to create some plot twist to make Mordo a good guy, Derrickson refused because it felt like a deus ex machina, and then he was out.

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You're just as bad as the wokes, trying to find conflict where there is none.

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Right? Put the SJWs and the alt-righties on the same island and leave em there. Society will be better off.

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I'm afraid you're the one close to them. You even have a woke like HarlemEagle42 celebrating your comments.

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Nice “No you” response. Try to get out and make friends. You might be happier.

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Try to get out and make friends. You might be happier.

So you finally started with personal attacks.

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How does one finally start something?

Also, my post wasn't an attack. I think you need to relax and maybe make some friends because you seem really pissed off and paranoid.

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I think you need to relax and maybe make some friends because you seem really pissed off and paranoid

And more personal attacks and name-calling.

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I never called you as name. Still not an attack.

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As for Killmonger, Black Panther actively goes out to stop him and eventually stabs him in the gut. That is not something a hero does to someone unless they are a villain. Killmonger had some sympathetic motivation but that's no different than Loki or Thanos.

T'challa isn't the villain he had to be Stopped much Like Zod in MOS also Killmonger is the Metaphorical of Malcolm X while T'challa is the Equivalent of Martin Luther King

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well im excited we are getting the real Mandarin sans Iron Man

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Better late than never.

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Agreed

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Hes got a little doggy and one serious drinking problem.

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He is one of the best method actors he is not an alcoholic GTFO

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This guy is just an out and out freak!

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Great that he's returned to CBMs, a great actor like him deserves the opportunity to work with Chris Hemsworth

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I’m excited about it, I really think he is gonna be a wonderful villain.

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Batman could defeat Thor.

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