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Must be only household in America who don't own a gun?

posted 7 years ago by gb901
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Would have made things so much easier!

[–] minia 7 years ago

I think it is funny that EVERYONE in America owns a gun or desires to have one.

I live in America, I do not own a gun, and I do not desire to have one. I despise the gun culture in the US. I see men obsessed with guns (ammosexuals) as being insecure with themselves, and I think the country would be a safer place if so many individuals (mostly right wing people) would stop praising guns and the false notion that it makes them safer.

A gun in Signs would have cheapened the sense of lack of control, especially in the last act. That tension and dread that made this movie so good came from feeling like there was little the family could do to prevent the aliens from invading their space.

[–] Befus (494) 3 years ago

HAHA you know nothing.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 2 years ago

Wow that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever heard. Especially considering the left now doesn't want me to have the right to police protection and on top of that I can't have a gun and if I do defend myself against left wing terrorists I am some kind of white nationalist or something. So basically if the left had their way I would just have to sit there while someone else kills me.

EDIT: Also what exactly is the "gun culture"? Owning a gun is my constitutional right. Is there a "Free speech" culture out there? or a "slavery is banned" culture?

[–] DMT (3967) 2 years ago

Shut up commie!!! this is a free country built and made by guns!!!!

[–] scannerdarkly (1287) 2 years ago

"and I think the country would be a safer place if so many individuals (mostly right wing people) would stop praising guns and the false notion that it makes them safer."

"A gun in Signs would have cheapened the sense of lack of control, especially in the last act. That tension and dread that made this movie so good came from feeling like there was little the family could do to prevent the aliens from invading their space."

The poster admits with his own words that guns do, in fact, make you safer when you have them and can use them.

[–] Burk48917 (11091) 2 years ago

Except it's not even remotely true.

[–] chukk61-1 7 years ago

I'm very confident that many clergymen don't have guns in their homes.

[–] Faridah (1350) 3 years ago

Lol trust me you are wrong. The southern clergyman I’ve known definitely carry guns and have them in their home too. Guns are usually used for hunting but also protection.

[–] kenburke (2299) 4 years ago

Any farmer in a rural area would own a gun (particularly a shotgun) to deal with wild dogs, varmits, and so on.

[–] warrior-poet (1333) 3 years ago

Actually, in 2020 only about 42% of households in the U.S. own a gun (legally). While I'd agree it's more likely that a farmer or someone in a rural area would own a registered firearm, it's far from a guarantee.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 2 years ago

The main character was a man of God. A lapsed Christian, but his anti-violence principles would have likely remained

[–] warrior-poet (1333) 2 years ago

Definitely would factor into it! The assumption he'd have a gun merely because he's a farmer simply doesn't hold up.
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[–] aavfreak (2933) 2 years ago

Actually, in 2020 only about 42% of households in the U.S. own a gun

You say "only 42%" like it's not a lot. And in context of the total US population, that would be correct. But that's pretty much everyone outside of New York, California, and major metro cities.

In the context of rural America and non-metro locations, the percentage is much higher.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8380) 2 years ago

What do you mean by "registered"? With a name like warrior-poet, you should know that there is no registration requirement in the United States. I could go buy a gun from a friend without doing any paperwork at all and it would be totally legal.

[–] warrior-poet (1333) 2 years ago

That was just a figure of speech, and I probably should have phrased that differently, or used a different term for better clarity of meaning. I really just meant legally owned, "registered" in as recorded or reported in some manner, e.g. even if just during a survey, etc., i.e. guns that are known so that statistics can be reported. This is often the result of background checks, which applies if sold from a licensed dealer, and often results in a so-called "back-door registration".

For general firearm ownership there are a few states that do require official registration. Pennsylvania, the state Signs takes place in, isn't one of them, though. In fact, Pennsylvania currently has laws that prohibit firearm registries. However, a background check is still required in Pennsylvania if sold by a dealer (not private party). It may not necessarily produce documentation on that fact (e.g. could just be a phone call to verify if the buyer is eligible to purchase a firearm), but usually does.

https://www.yourlawfirmforlife.com/individual/firearms/do-i-have-to-register-my-gun/

Certain firearms are subject to the National Firearms Act (NFA) (e.g., machineguns, short–barreled rifles and shotguns, silencers, destructive devices, and firearms designated as “any other weapons”), and must be registered with the ATF.

But again, by "registered" I just meant "recorded in some database that can be used to derive a percentage of ownership."

Bottom line regarding this topic: farmers don't necessarily own guns.
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[–] BensGirl (590) 2 years ago

I love you said “varmits.”