Wow


I first remember watching this film on VHS when I was ten years old or so...my parents really liked it, said it had the best car chase scene EVER. But of course the story itself went over my head. It was just images to me, back then. I caught pieces of it throughout my teens (on cable, not the VHS), and never really absorbed any of it--I really had no idea what the story was about, it was just things happening. But hey, short attention span of a teenager, what can you do...
So I caught it on Cinemax the other day, and I'm in my late twenties now with years upon years of film appreciation under my belt. I was in awe.
Such a well-paced, wonderful action film. I'm still trying to figure out how they pulled off some of those stunts. And the car chase scenes...goodness. Absolutely top-notch directing and execution. There is a very unique and impressive flow to this film, and the chase scenes are like way-points connecting it all together.
The story was believable and realistic, same with the characters. The dialogue was NOT expository, but natural and conducive to the story.
There was a great deal of violence in the story, but it was not forced. The violence was always relevant to the story. Because this IS a story about wandering warriors, and warriors shed blood. It is a shame that there was so much collateral damage (lots of innocent bystanders get killed), but at least the film was honest and un-afraid about depicting the violence, and allows you to judge each character for yourself. Not a preachy film, but full of philosophical ideas.
This film is legit.

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I have a copy of this film and I'm due to watch it again. I love all of De Niro's films. I did some research to find out exactly where the car chase was filmed.

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Yep, De Niro is one of the greats. Where were the chases filmed?

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The road going through Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur

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Oh Cortez

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One of my favorite films. I love how Sam uses his brain to solve problems. My particular favorite is how he sets the trap at the hotel with the luggage. Such a suave solution to the problem.
I also love the buddy chemistry between DeNiro and Reno. And Stellan Skarsgard is brilliant as always.

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Yes, his character was really well developed. I like the confrontation scene with Sean Bean, because it shows his character's professionalism as well as his logic.
Completely agree with the De Niro/Reno chemistry--they both did a really great job.

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Unfortunately that scene is undercut by De Niro’s repeated mispronunciation of ‘Hereford’ 🤦🏻‍♂️

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But he's an American, why would he know how to pronounce it correctly?

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Because his character is experienced and intelligent, and knew of the existence of Hereford - a niche area of England.

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I think your post sums the film up well. Excellent filmmaking!

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Cheers!

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The young filmmakers of today could learn a thing or two from this film, oh they still make great action films even today but sadly most of them are missing a storyline. It would seem that nowadays it’s all about the spectacle.

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Ronin belongs in an unofficial trilogy with Spartan and Heist, also written by Mamet. Redbelt fits somewhere in there, too.

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That's really cool. No wonder I enjoyed the dialogue so much. Mamet is a pro when it comes to creating realistic, believable interactions between characters, and such an inspiration for aspiring writers (like myself).

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He certainly orchestrates natural exchanges. I'd go so far as to say the dialogue, brilliantly crafted as it is, always serves the narrative without overtaking it. Read some of his scripts and you'll find that he also integrates effective visual storytelling into the writing as well. Also check out some of his books on the topic such as Three Uses of the Knife and On Directing Film.

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Cool! Thanks for the recommendation.

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I'd encourage you to check out other films by John Frankenheimer; he's a very good, underappreciated director.
Films like Seconds, Birdman of Alcatraz, The Manchurian Candidate, The Gypsy Moths, I Walk the Line...

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Thanks for the recommendations!
I watched The Manchurian Candidate years ago, thought it was fascinating but definitely need to rewatch it.

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It's a really great action-thriller, yeah.

I'm not sure it has the best car chase scene, although it's got a good one.

The French Connection is better, in my opinion, as is Bullitt. The Bourne Identity's got to be up there, too, right?

My personal number one favourite might be the climax of (the original) The Italian Job.

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I also can’t say that it has the absolute BEST car chase scenes, but they are some of my favorites.
Bourne Identity is also one of my favorites, truly iconic, sometimes I go on YouTube just to rewatch it.
Definitely still need to check out French Connection, Bullitt and original Italian Job, but haven’t had the chance yet.

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I'm not sure there is definitively a "best" car chase of all time. It's subjective, of course, and it might depend on what you're looking for out of it, but I would definitely recommend not only the car chases of The French Connection, Bullitt, and The Italian Job, but also the whole films. All three are classics for a reason.

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The cars look like they are really motoring hard on real streets in real traffic. Done today it would be tempting to cgi it but this usually cranks up the physics to the impossible.

Having just watched it again I like how many of the characters look like they've just walked out of an office or warehouse but their actions are unquestionably mercenary.

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