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Thoroughly ridiculous and equally enjoyable
I really love the hatchet scene
I don’t know how to feel about this one (mild spoilers) (and a question)
A theory about Jack’s novel (spoilers)
Henry’s dad
Enjoyed this very much
Great opening—and here’s a question
Well ain’t that about a female dog (spoilers)
Maybe it’s just nostalgia, but
Damn, this movie is depressing
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If Fredo hadn’t been stepped over, and somehow he still managed to betray the family/Sonny, then most likely his fate would have been the same: death, or removal in some form or another.
If it was directly an affront to Sonny, then Sonny would have probably beaten him to death, but by accident. And then Sonny would have felt really bad about it afterward.
But of course, this is just conjecture. For the sake of argument.
This is a really great film. I didn’t know it was based on a true event before I saw it, so had no idea that it would have such a tragic ending.
It was really well done; beautifully told, beautifully acted. An extremely moving tribute to lives lost.
I wonder if Fredo’s betrayal would have even occurred if Sonny had not been killed.
The family hierarchy would certainly be different, with Michael not feeling as if he had to take a leadership role.
But then again, Sonny was a hothead, and would probably have brought along his own demise eventually in some way or another.
However, if Sonny was able to find enough mental serenity to be a level-headed leader, maybe Michael would have become the Las Vegas guy, and Fredo would have been relegated to some harmless/useless position around the compound.
I think for the purpose of the film, creatively they made a choice to mostly focus on Henry’s journey, and streamlined the narrative with that in mind. But the the fact that they even show Henry’s parents for that brief moment shows that they at least took that aspect of the story in to account. I only noticed his parents at the wedding on my third or fourth watch, and was pleasantly surprised at that little detail.
The book provides more details regarding both Henry and Karen’s parents, but like I wrote before, I think the filmmakers chose to keep those details on the periphery in order to sustain their intended pacing.
The film also condensed details regarding the heists (and other altercations), but provides references to what is more detailed in the book.
One fun detail is that Jimmy (DeNiro) really loved ketchup, and in every scene where he is eating, there is either a ketchup bottle in the frame, or he is putting ketchup on his food (except for that final scene in the diner when he doesn’t touch anything).
You’re right, the only difference was that Henry’s dad was beating on him, and those gangsters were beating on others for him, which probably impacted Henry’s perspective at the time (being a child/adolescent and all). His father had the wisdom to know that those people were bad news.
I think you hit the mark here, because Henry’s narration takes place in hindsight, and yet he is still seemingly oblivious to his youthful foolishness.
I’m glad that scene was shot, but also glad that it was deleted.
I like the film as is, and the ending slow-zoom into the photo is just lovely, but knowledge of this sequence affirms my feelings of Ullman’s creepiness.
Yes yes.
Also enjoy the shot of the niece holding the drill, laughing maniacally.
Just great stuff.
Agreed.
One of my favorite flicks.
I love how Goodman could go from zero to a hundred, then back to zero in a matter of moments.
This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!!!
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