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I love this film but the first line of the movie has become so dated now.


"3 billion human lives ended on Augest 29th, 1997." Of course the scifi of both films have become dated since it is 2020. Still good movies though.

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Not really. It's a fictional alternate timeline. It would only date it if it was based on real-life events. The movie '2012' is dated for example because it was based on an actual prediction.

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Are all films set in the future a fictional alternate timeline?

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WTF? that's fictional, too.

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I really hop that no one watch 2012 and actually thought that this was gonna happen. That was so dumb and so over-the-top. So it can't really be dated if it totally fictional?

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The prediction is from real life though. T2 is completely fictional on the other hand.

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What is the problem with that 1997 line?

You can easily assume they succeed at the end, stop or delay Judgment Day.

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I more meant because it is now 2020, anyone watching this for the first time hearing that line is going to just automatically say or think, "No it didn't." But you are right. With the ending of them destroying Cyberdyne and both Dyson dying and the Terminator allowing himself to be melted away in hot liquid steel, they delayed it so the future will be different. Still, 1997 is now 23 years ago.

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SPOILERS🤬

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Why are you on a message board of a movie you have not seen?

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I WAS WAITING TILL ALL THE REVIEWS CAME IN

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😂😂

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Didn't the events of GeniSys completely erase the events of T1 and T2?

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I stopped watching after seeing Terminator 3... no thanks, I will stick to the first two which are masterpieces.

But apparently, the whole time is so messed up that nothing from what happened in the first two really matters anymore. Because of that, I ignore the existence of all the sequels after T2.

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It's certainly lost the impact it had back then when we wondered what the late 90s would be, but I do see it as an alternative, and avoided, alternative future.

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3 billion's not bad for a nuclear war.

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Yeah. I think that's a flub on James Cameron's part. He probably should've made it more like 5 billion. In fact I am pretty sure I have heard somewhere that supposedly the complete population of the entire world now is around 8billion (not sure what the estimated population of the world was in 1990 when this was written) so if only 3billion died there are still 5billion people who can fight the machines. Though it is funny in a way. It makes me wonder if maybe Skynet didn't bother nuking areas of jungle on the planet thinking the animals and people living there probably wouldn't pose a thereat to it.

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The world population when this movie was made was around 5 billion and by the time Judgement Day is set (1997) was almost 6 billion.
3 billion lives on Judgement Day alone though is a large chunk of the population to start with. Add to that the general devastation and fall out etc... that's one hell of a first strike.

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I suppose but it does leave 3billion people alive who can fight Skynet.

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True, but they would be mostly disorganized, suffering from radiation sickness and starving as well as mostly being untrained in weapons handling.
Oh, and also being hunted down by HK's.

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Well yeah. But I was more thinking John has quite a few people he can have rescued, trained, and help him fight against skynet is all. Not nitpicking. Just looking at it a bit more optimistically than most people would. Not that I'd want to live in an apocalyptic future. I'm actually on several medications that in a future like that without them, I'd be in too much pain to do anything.

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I was ready to blast you for the "dated" remark upon seeing the title of your thread. But yes, I see your point! Kind of like Escape from New York took place in the "future" of 1998 :) Cheers! :)

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Come to think of it a similar movie of the time is Predator 2 which took place in the future 1998.

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1997

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yeah , well , sort of , what ya gonna do?
Just pretend they said another date like 2027.

"Strange Days" , now thats dated because its set at the turn of the millennium. You cant just pretend its set on new years eve a couple of years hence, as its not a special date.

Same with 2012, seeing as that was based on the real life end of the Mayan calendar, but thats a shit film so who cares.

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