I haven't seen anyone really address this but doesn't it seem silly that they altered the rules so the previous years All Valley champion automatically advances to the championship fight?
Imagine the NFL deciding the Bucs get a pass into Superbowl LVI just because the won this year. Where's the sense of competition?
Terrible writing on the movies part and not sure why they went in that direction.
There really wasn't a plausible way Daniel could have advanced to the final round to face Barnes without a buy.
shareIt has been addressed many times and despite the many disagreements on these boards everyone agrees this was stupid and poor writing. The writer had actual experience of Karate and competition so it makes it even worse that they would do this. If you delve in to it, the whole movie is a mess and it is believed the writer threw his toys out of the pram because the studio wouldn't go with the story he proposed.
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Terrible writing or lazy, or both.
I guess they were afraid that if Daniel had to fight a full card for that tournament, then the whole Silver/Barnes setup would have been predicated on the idea that Daniel couldn't lose a preliminary bout. There's no way Silver would have gone through the convoluted effort to setup Daniel's beating in the final bout with no guarantee he'd make it that far.
When Macchio showed up on set 20 pounds overweight, the writers hastily scrambled to change the plot. It would have been implausible for him to advance several rounds in his condition.
sharePlot hole
shareMore a plot contrivance than a plot hole.
shareIts easier to type plot hole
shareThink Macchio was unable to perform the choreography for several matches in his condition and appealed to the producers to change the script.
shareThat or they just wanted to skip the lead up fights because it was done already in the original. The whole concept of a defending champion getting automatic entry to the Finals in any tournament/sporting event is so beyond ridiculous
shareAlthough it's kinda like when the President runs for re-election he sorta gets a "buy" through the primaries. Not to compare Daniel to a President though. President of Kraft Mac and Cheese maybe....
shareThe rules were changed so that Daniel would drop his guard and not train hard enough. It was the cherry on top of the master plan.
shareThat's actually a very good point I've not considered before.
Not that Daniel would have posed any threat even if he did train, it's that kind of meticulousness that made Mr Terry Silver so successful.
So are you saying that Terry Silver was possibly the person behind the rule change?
shareI am. I thought it was pretty obvious that he squeezed somebody to make it happen.
shareInteresting
shareThe rule change had to be made for Mr Terry Silver's plan to work. Daniel wouldn't have made it past the first round otherwise. There is no doubt he kept it all legal and above board though. When you bankroll an entire tournament, I'm sure the committee will happily consider your suggestion for a rule change.
shareHis plan still didn't work though did it?
It was flawed from the start.
It also made it more enticing for Daniel to enter.
shareAnd yet he still had to be forced in to entering.
Not as smart a plan as is being made out eh?
He was originally excited about the rule change, sensing an easy road, before Miyagi discouraged him.
shareSo then Silver didn't account for Miyagi. Poor planning on his part.
shareHe didn’t account for how backwards-thinking and unAmerican Miyagi was. Keisuke disrespected the tournament tradition by discouraging Daniel from entering. As Mr Silver correctly points out later on, “A champion should defend his title.”
shareHe didn’t account for how backwards-thinking and unAmerican Miyagi was.
So in a nutshell Silver failed then.
As Mr Silver correctly points out later on, “A champion should defend his title.”
Hmm, what if the defending champion was now over 18. How would he be able to defend a title in an under 18 tournament?
That would actually make the stupid change logical. It was Silver pulling the stings of the Championship committee the entire time. It was also Silver who paid Jessica to be a mole. I hope that the writers of Cobra Kai use these plot points. They certainly have used a lot of the fan theories that were floating around on Youtube for years. if they use this one then karate Kid Part III could possibly make sense in places.
shareCobra Kai's next season is coming out at the end of December :D
shareI'm assuming Johnny won the year before Daniel so why didn't Johnny get a pass to the final in the first movie.
shareIf you had paid attention it specifically states that it is a new rule.
shareIt was cringeworthy watching Daniel get all excited over the new rule. He didn’t seem to care that it would be unfair to the other contestants. Sociopathic bastard.
shareSociopathic?
Selfish and self entitled I would think.
But as I've always maintained, why the hell would anybody else enter? You would expect the other clubs to boycott the All Valley, not support this rule.
The other contestants likely hoped that Daniel would take the honorable path and decline the auto buy.
shareWell it seems you have forgotten that is exactly what he was going to do until Silver forced his hand.
All Silvers fault then. Glad you agree.
I mean he should have opted to compete but not accept the buy to the finals and fight his way up the ladder honorably like Barnes. How can you be so obtuse is it deliberate?
shareHe was not in a position to dictate the rules. The only position he was in was one of declining to compete. He did that but Silver forced him to compete.
Did I call you stupid? Sorry if I upset you there, I thought you knew!
He could have competed and opted to not take the buy. Why are you so stupid?
shareHe couldn't. The rules were the rules. His only option was to not compete. That was taken away by Silvers threats.
Did you actually watch the movie ?
Nearly 1.00am in Hawaii, can't you sleep?
You seriously believe they would have FORCED Daniel to take the buy if he didn’t want it? Why are you so stupid is it deliberate?
shareSeeing as the order of play was already set up it would have been a take it or leave it situation. But hey, you seem to know so much about it having never competed or even been to a Karate competition in your life, so let's all take your opinion as fact eh? Oh hang on, that WOULD be stupid now wouldn't it?
It's after 1.15am in Hawaii and you are obviously suffering from sleep deprivation.
You’ve never even been to a real karate tournament. Inviting children to your apartment in East London so they can watch you and your roommate do amateur yoga is NOT a real tournament! Then again it’s the only tournament you can afford as you refuse to acknowledge the reality that real karate tournaments are organized and funded by the likes of Terry Silver.
shareOh dear, the sleep deprivation is in full swing now isn't it?