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I HATE SO MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS SHOW


Where do I begin? Off the top of my head:

1. The first two seasons
2. Tasha Yar
3. Pulaski
4. Wesley
5. Alexander
6. Ro Laren

I couldn't stand any of those aspects of the show, and it's a shame as they infest most of it, in different eras.

By contrast, I find Trek shows like DS9 and Voyager to be much more solid and consistent.

I think TNG is overrated anyway.

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I only character I didn't like was Pulaski and she was written to be that way.

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I hate the holodeck / transporter / replicator-tech.

I mean, it's cool technology, and I would love that in real life, but it's the IMPLICATIONS that the writers obviously didn't consider that I hate. I guess, I hate the stupidity of writers.

Think about it - why would they EVER need any 'medical staff', 'doctors' or ANYTHING 'medical', beyond 'scanning device' to tell you what illness you have, when they can just RECREATE your physical body?

Also, did anyone ever consider ages - why would anyone ever AGE, when you can basically reset your body to its prime any day you feel a little old? Realistically, with this tech, no one would EVER age much over 20, maybe 22 or so.

Why would the transporters ever recreate an OLD, diseased body, when they control energy and atoms completely? It makes no sense!

They can create, recreate and constitute bodies, food, objects, YOU NAME IT, basically from thin air. If you could 'forever live in a 20-year old body', would you choose to let your body age?

Also, holodeck by itself would destroy all life in the Universe. No one would ever bother doing ANYTHING menial or boring, as we can see from the cellphone zombie-phenomenon; most people are glued to the glowing screen of a rectangle most of the time, and simply can't stop 'checking' it constantly.

If you extrapolate future situation from our situation, there would never be any new tech after holodecks are invented, people would just spend their lives in 'optimal life' instead of 'boring and mundane reality'.

There are just SO many implications, it boggles the mind, and this show addresses practically none of them.

What happens, if you send a toddler through a transporter, and then the transporter decides to 'optimize' that body (which should be the default setting, as no one would want to arrive anywhere in a sick body, when the transporter could optimize, heal, recreate a perfect body every single time anyone uses it), and now you have a toddler in a 20-year old body..

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Would the toddler suddenly be able to speak and act like an adult, or would it be a drooling idiot in a body with good brain capacity and..

..well, you get the idea. Why didn't the writers consider any (let alone all possible) implications of this kind of tech and the things it would render obsolete, like doctors?

Sure, I can get people sometimes 'manufacturing food manually' (I am sure a term like 'cooking' would've been forgotten in that era), as it can be fun, and act as a hobby of sorts.

But why would anyone do it in REAL LIFE, when they can do it optimally in a holodeck? Think about all those 'cooking games', like 'Cooking Mama', that people love to play ALTHOUGH they don't like to cook anything for real. It would be the same situation with a much larger scale and more detail, but basically lots of people would 'love cooking', as long as it's not dirty, messy and cumbersome - the way it would inevitably be in real life'.

Consider this; would YOU rather sit on a couch, watch your kids fight over something stupid, while your wife nags you to death, knowing you have only a couple of hours of brain-numbing televisional programming to consume before you get to pass out, after which you have to commute to some boring office wage slavery...

..OR!!...

..roam around freely from planet to planet, meeting interesting civilizations, all of which love you dearly and want to do anything and everything from you, from simple physical pleasures to amazing druglike mental and spiritual stimulation of your whole being, while you are able to witness amazing sceneries, while flying like Superman all over all kinds of interesting sceneries of amazing planets, and the variety and diversity of all of this wonder and beauty would never cease, it would be fantasy-worlds, realistic worlds, anything inbetween and beyond, anything you desire and want to see and visit.. you could explore and create to your heart's content with PERFECT people around you that love you..?

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Obviously, more detail and interesting things can be added to that holodeck lifestyle, anything you want would basically be yours, only your own imagination would be the limit. Perhaps you could make the computers somehow hypnotize you to even expand your mind and imagination to magnificent magnitudes...

(Of course, if sitting in a grey, dark box and staring at the wall is your fantasy, then you could have that, too - there would basically be no limitations)

It would all be perfectly safe, as well as perfect in all possible ways according to your own specifications. Wanna swim with dolphins? You can swim with dolphins. Wanna be a Galactus and destroy a whole city while everyone tries to flee, but you crush them with your gigantic feet and laugh? You can do that in the most realistic way possible. Wanna see psychedelic, interdimensional colors, create whole nebulae, play any kind of 'God-Simulator' if you are megalomanic that way.. you name it.

Why would ANYONE ever leave Holodeck? Tell me a reason that's more compelling than being able to live 'any life you want as long as you want in any way you want'?

The only thing I can think of is 'maintenance of Holodeck', but other than that, how could being a meaningless cog in some exophobic militaristic organization be better than just living in the holodeck?

So your teleporters would 'rejuvenate' your body (recreate a youthful, vibrant, vitality-brimming body for you ANY time you want), Holodeck would provide life, entertainment, freedom and even food and toilet facilities for you, you would never even need to shower, because why shower, when you can just simply recreate a new, clean body for yourself by using the teleporter?

The implications are _STAGGERING_!! and they are not addressed. That's the world of writers for you..

..they should NEVER have gone that lazy 'transporter route' to solve their tiny problem about transportation, if they weren't willing to deal with the ramifications and implications better.

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1. the first 2 seasons - theres enough good eps to keep me happy (Where No One Has Gone Before, Heart of Glory, Symbiosis, Conspiracy, A Matter of Honor, Contagion, Time Squared, Q Who - some of those are among the best of TNG imo) and anyway u got to remember at the time in 87/88 the likes of Dynasty and Dallas were still on tv. so thats the quality of tv that was going on back then!

2. Yar wasnt great ikr. originally she was supposed to be Marina Sirtis as a kind of Vasquez type.. that wouldve been fun! and shed have been so hot lol

3 Pulaski was just an obvious rip off Bones. brought in bc some producer Harvey Weinsteind Gates McFadden or something like that

4 Wesley - as someone said he was the Jar Jar before Jar Jar. when i read Wheatons sob story about Shatner flat out rejecting him on the set of Trek V i smiled..

5. Alexander - literally means nothing to me. didnt he die in the show? or was that his mother? i dont care

6. Ro - i still have not seen many of the eps she was in so again. but yeh she seemed quite annoying (s5 is when i began to tune out of TNG bar the important eps like Unification, Relics, AGT etc. i guess maybe TOS ending with Trek VI was the a cause of that, but also it wasnt so easy for me to watch the eps back then as in the UK the BBC lost the rights to Sky for s4 or s5 onwards, which meant it was just renting those important eps on VHS that i wanted to see )

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I liked Pulaski.

Especially the way she viewed Data as a lifeless machine. It was a realistic response.

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ADDENDUM:

I wish to add:

7. Lwaxana Troi

Fucking bitch, I never liked her, except as the universal voice of Federation computers AND in Babylon 5!

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I like the character of Yar, but not the actress. She plays it so monotone and looks angry.

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1. It's a matter of opinion.
6. You're silly.

The others yes.

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What I found really helped when re-watching TNG is playing it back at 1.5 x to even 1.75 x speed.

The way everyone talks so slow and rehearsed, even during crisis moments and battles, really shows at normal speed and speeding it up really changes things.

As for those list of points, the Tasha Yar character was certainly a bit over the top but I remember being surprised they got rid of her so early on when they did. But having a Klingon become Chief of Security was a perfect match in a new generation of Trek. It was very touching when she came back in that episode where Picard and her are in the shuttle.

Wesley... well a lot of people get irritated at any thought of the kid. I thought he was fine and certainly made the show more relatable for young teens.

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