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Why do people so easily dismiss the possibility of aliens?


So many people I've known in the past and present seem to divert their attention or completely dismiss the subject when the idea of UFOs or aliens is brought up. I've seen a UFO myself on the job and I only brought it up to one supervisor. When I mentioned it, I was met with silence. Friends of mine say they think UFO specials on the History Channel are rubbish and some of them thought the last Indiana Jones movie was stupid just because it involved the idea of aliens.

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The 'evidence' is so sketchy. And people who say they've seen them always seen a bit... trying to find a respectful way of saying retarded.

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They're always on their own too


i bet since the age of everyon carrying a camera with them , belief has deteriorated further

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I never thought the theory that more cameras would mean more proof held much water because if the aliens could bend time and space to get here then they could turn on a cloaking device when they noticed humans had mass produced photography equipment that could pick up their spacecrafts in high definition.

With that said, I don't think we've ever been visited by aliens, and I don't think traveling that far across space is possible, and I've never seen evidence life exists anywhere else.

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From what I recall from one of those History channel documentaries, it was aliens who killed off the dinosaurs to extinction, then built the pyramids in Egypt and then left for their home planet in another galaxy. The aliens have not returned since

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I find that people often use the words "UFO" and "aliens" interchangeably. Seeing something in the sky that you can't identify is enough to qualify as a UFO and I find it hard to believe that your coworkers (or anyone else) would have a problem with that.

A claim of alien visitation on the other hand has yet to be established. It's possible, but without evidence -- real evidence -- it's still an unknown.

Life elsewhere in the universe (if even in the past): almost a certainty.

Intelligent life elsewhere in the universe (if even in the past): I'd say probably. But super advanced intelligence? Who knows?

Intelligent life from outside our planet paying us a visit: No real evidence for that at present. So maybe, maybe not. The jury is out. I'll go with no for the time being.

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Ever hear of the Cosmic Calendar? Carl Sagan popularised the theory that if the chronology of the universe was contained in a single Earth year, then human history as we know it will have occurred on New Year's Eve at a minute to midnight!

Obviously, stars around the galaxy are born at different times, life evolves at different rates based on environmental factors, and intelligent life is a tiny flash of the existence of that life (and I mean plant life or simple creatures).

Basically, whilst life is abundant in our galaxy alone, 99.9% of the time it will be plant life and/or simple creatures, but the chances of another world close to Earth that harbours intelligent life, especially at a similar level of technology, is MASSIVELY INFINITESIMAL at best!

Science Fiction basically LIES to everyone, especially with franchises like Star Trek and even Star Wars: they've basically only ever been human dramas but dressed up as aliens and planets and spaceships instead of people from other countries, those countries themselves, and means of travel. I mean, Gene Roddenberry of Star Trek called it "Wagon Train to the Stars".

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I think it is mostly a religious thing. Somehow religion and life on other planets is incompatible. Although I'm not a follower of any faith and think they are very, very unlikely to be true (although I can't rule them out entirely), I actually think that if there is some supreme super being that created the universe and us, it would pretty much guarantee he made life on some other planets in the unlimited vastness of space so far away, we'll never be in contact. Without a supreme god, I still think there is about a 99.999999999999999999999% chance of life on other planets. But no, it is highly unlikely we have ever been visited by aliens.

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"Life" as you say it is an extremely broad term. Do you mean single-celled protozoa, plankton, simple creatures, mammals, fish, apes, humanoids, what? Or even plant life, which is abundant throughout history but makes up 99% or so of all life?

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its more about the distances than how evolved the life is .

I'd say given the odds theres well developed intelligent life out there , as well as plankton .

point is they havent been sniffing around deserted farms mutilating cattle , cos distance.

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Yes, I have no doubt that life exists, and to a much lesser extent, intelligent life in the UNIVERSE as a whole, not just our galaxy.

But I firmly believe that Faster Than Light (FTL) travel is impossible. Star Trek and Star Wars, among others, lied to us AGAIN!

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I think the most common life would probably be microscopic or very simple, but I'm sure there have been other higher animals and sentient beings as well. I agree that breaking the speed of light is unlikely, as will be folding space, or using wormholes as a means of travel. But who knows?

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First, it is a frightening thought for many. It implies that the universe is not in order as they thought. Further, like with other people of the Earth these beings most likely do not have our best interests at heart.

Second, as to science fiction people have claimed to have seen UFO's before the time of what we call science fiction. Ezekiel and the wheel in the Bible. Drawings of battles between space ships from the time of Renaissance Europe.

Third, we have to imagine a completely different technology than what is known to explain how beings could travel many years in a predicted life time. Just 150 years ago the thought of any space travel including going to the moon would have gotten a person locked away in an asylum for being mad. Today, we can and have gone to sites including Cape Canaveral to watch rockets and shuttles to be launched into space.

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so , in light of that , do you think we *have* been visited by aliens who have used some unfathomable (to us) technology to cross vast interstellar distances?

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It's possible. But how regular that happens is anybody's guess. The nearest star Alpha Centauri is around 16 light years away. Assuming that there is life there and that they have faster than light technology it is not so hard to imagine space travel to our solar system.

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You say . . "Further, like with other people of the Earth these beings most likely do not have our best interests at heart."

I don't know how we might conclude that it's "most likely." It's hard enough for me to understand various cultures and customs that I read about around our own globe than to transpose what is "most likely" onto an alien race.

As an aside, I've always found it amusing that our species always seems to assume in these scenarios that aliens want something from us: our resources, our DNA, our servitude, etc. We seem to always place a high value on ourselves. It could be that aliens have taken a peak here and yawned and moved on. Could be . . . we're not that interesting after all.

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It's a function of nearly all the wars human beings have experienced. Invaders have wanted things such as food, energy, and labor so people imagine aliens will want the same thing. Logical or not.

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It almost passes as logical. But . . . any race that could master the immensity of space travel on the kind of scale it would take to pay us a visit would surely not need our resources (think about it). So any peek at our planet on their part could be seen as mere curiosity. And surely we would be regarded as more than a little primitive next to the likes of this kind of traveler. So I'm leaning more toward the choice of "illogical."

Can't rule anything out (again, we're talking races that we can't possibly know anything about -- assuming they exist), so it remains an open topic for discussion of course. But I remain a skeptic until substantial evidence is presented.

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Extraterrestrial intelligence is invariably invoked to explain many unexplained or unexplainable occurrences, but in reality, it is the longest of long shots. The chances that aliens from other planets, or other stars, in the universe, co-exist with our own civilization are so low that they are almost immeasurable. It may be argued that a spacefaring civilization would have little interest in Earth, or as Carl Sagan suggested, that there is simply so much space between stars that, should two civilizations arise simultaneously in the universe, the chances they might actually meet before one disappears (civilizations come and go, you may have heard) is close to zero. Sagan's quote: 'There can be no 'Star Wars'.' This is not to say the chance is actually zero. But as our understanding of the universe slowly grows, the idea of a spacefaring, extraterrestrial race visiting the Earth, interacting with its citizens, and ultimately interceding in events here, may be easily dismissed. Sorry.

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We know very little about our origins, about space and all that.
It would be naive to ignore that and .

We know nothing..

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Nobody with a brain dismisses the possibility of alien life.

No, what the people with brains dissmiss is the UFOlogy myth of little gray humanoid aliens kidnapping and ass-raping humans! And we laugh heavily while doing so, because that one is SO clearly based on fears or desires that the UFOlogists refuse to admit or understand. Those bitches don't even understand their own thought processes, and still expect the rest of us to take then seriously ...

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