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#45 is associated with so many people going to jail


Not only did a lot of his buddies go to jail, now his little nutty supporters who stormed the Capital are going as well.

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Dear dumbfuck,

It's called Communism.

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No dumbfuck. It's called #45 is a sorry-ass prick.

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The dems are jailing and silencing anyone that is a Republican and associated with Trump, its called Communism, China does the same thing. They jail and silence the opposition.

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Most of the arrests took place while Trump was still in office, and while you still had a Republican majority in Congress. You calling it "communism" only shows that 1) you have no idea what communism is, and 2) you have no idea what's going on in the American political landscape.

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Actually, there's proof that the FBI lied to the FISA court in order to get warrants to spy on the Trump White House, and then lied to Congress about the reliability of the Steele Dossier.

All while Trump was in office and the Republicans had a majority in Congress.

Why would the FBI attempt to illegally undermine the Executive Branch? The same FBI whose director admitted to illegally leaking information to the press that was damaging to the administration. The same FBI that set a perjury trap for Michael Flynn. The same FBI who tipped off CNN they were going to use a 29-member SWAT team in full tactical gear with assault weapons to arrest a 66-year-old man who was only being charged with obstruction, perjury, and witness tampering.

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Actually, there's proof that the FBI lied to the FISA court in order to get warrants to spy on the Trump White House, and then lied to Congress about the reliability of the Steele Dossier.

What proof?

Why would the FBI attempt to illegally undermine the Executive Branch? The same FBI whose director admitted to illegally leaking information to the press that was damaging to the administration. The same FBI that set a perjury trap for Michael Flynn. The same FBI who tipped off CNN they were going to use a 29-member SWAT team in full tactical gear with assault weapons to arrest a 66-year-old man who was only being charged with obstruction, perjury, and witness tampering.

The so-called perjury trap consisted of Flynn allegedly not being cautioned that lying to the FBI was a crime. It's not like it was an elaborate scheme to get him to stumble in his words or misremember something. Nor did Flynn's own lawyers claim as much. There is nothing illegal, unusual or even unethical about the FBI's treatment of Flynn. Flynn lied - why did Flynn lie?

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"What proof?"

Seriously? You're not aware of this?

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/475053-fisa-courts-rebuke-of-the-fbi-it-broke-or-ignored-the-rules-and-our

The presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) has issued a stinging rebuke to the FBI in the wake of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on the bureau’s serial abuses in the surveillance of Carter Page.

In the FISC’s assessment, the derelictions in the Page surveillance warrants are so serious, the court’s judges cannot be confident that any warrant applications the FBI has submitted are accurate and complete — i.e., that the bureau’s assertions have been true and, even if true, were not misleading because of the omission of relevant information.


As for the FBI lying to Congress:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier
Among the most misleading statements from the FBI:

The FBI told Congress that the Primary Sub-source “did not cite any significant concerns with the way his reporting was characterized in the dossier to the extent he could identify it.”

*However, documents previously declassified by the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that he “has no idea” where some of the language attributed to him came from or that his contacts “never mentioned” some of the information attributed to them.
*The Primary Sub-source told the FBI he “did not know the origins” of other information that was supposedly from his contacts and he “did not recall” other information attributed to him or his contacts.
*Further, the Primary Sub-source said that Steele used “incorrect source characterization” for one of the Primary Sub-source’s contacts.

The FBI told Congress that “At minimum, our discussions with [the Primary Sub-source] confirm that the dossier was not fabricated by Steele.”

*However, as Inspector General Horowitz’s December 2019 report on Crossfire Hurricane revealed, the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that the corroboration for the dossier was “zero” and that he takes what the sources for the dossier told him with “a grain of salt.”
*8Moreover, the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that Steele presented some of the information in the dossier as fact reported by sub-sources when the information was really just Steele’s own “analytical conclusions” and “analytical judgments.”
*The Primary Sub-source explained to the FBI that his information came from “word of mouth and hearsay” and “conversation that [he] had with friends over beers”, and that some of the information, such as allegations about Trump’s sexual activities, were statements made in “jest.

The FBI told Congress that the Primary Sub-source “maintains trusted relationships with individuals who are capable of reporting on the material he collected for Steele.”

*However, the FBI interviews with the Primary Sub-source revealed that there were many degrees of separation between the Primary Sub-source’s contacts and the persons quoted in the reporting and that it could have been multiple layers of hearsay upon hearsay.
*For example, the Primary Sub-source stated to the FBI his contacts did not have direct access to the persons they were reporting on. Instead, the Primary Sub-source told the FBI that the information was “from someone else who may have had access.”



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Seriously? You're not aware of this?

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/475053-fisa-courts-rebuke-of-the-fbi-it-broke-or-ignored-the-rules-and-our

I wouldn't link to an opinion piece for a source, personally. What that is referring to is the Nunes memo, which is not without controversy. The Schiff memo was written in rebuttal, but was only allowed to be made public in redacted form.

As for the FBI lying to Congress:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier

While not exactly above boards, this sort of approach - being economical with the truth - is par for the course. There is nothing there which can be characterised as a bald-faced lie. Nothing which, as they say, would stick.

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"I wouldn't link to an opinion piece for a source, personally. What that is referring to is the Nunes memo, which is not without controversy. The Schiff memo was written in rebuttal, but was only allowed to be made public in redacted form."

Clueless. It wasn't the Nunes memo. It's referring to the Horowitz report. All you're doing is showing your ignorance.

A non-opinion piece:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html

FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications

The typically ultra-close-lipped Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court slammed the FBI for mistakes it made in the Carter Page surveillance warrants and ordered the agency to detail how it will improve its warrant applications in light of the errors, uncovered recently by the Justice Department’s inspector general.

The order is a startling departure from the court’s typical comprehensive secrecy as it reviews from federal investigators requests for warrants related to foreign intelligence.


"There is nothing there which can be characterised as a bald-faced lie."

Really? So the FBI claiming the sub-source did not cite any significant concerns with the way his reporting was characterized in the dossier, while they knew the sub-source had “no idea” where some of the information came from, and that he "did not know the origins" of other information, and he "did not recall" other information attributed to him, is not a 'bald-faced lie'?

And that's only one of the points mentioned.

Typical liberal. Just deny any facts that prove you wrong.

And keep in mind the Steele Dossier was the key bit of evidence in the investigation of the Trump Administration's supposed 'collusion' with the Russians. Early on in the investigation the FBI discovered all these flaws with the dossier, proving it was unworthy to be used as evidence. But did they stop the investigation? No. They hid all the flaws they found, and when they testified before Congress they claimed the dossier contained verified information.

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"The so-called perjury trap consisted of Flynn allegedly..."

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/495718-michael-flynn-case-places-both-fbi-integrity-and-civil-liberty-on-the-line

Recent revelations in this case prove that the FBI set up Flynn and sprung a perjury trap in order to get him to lie. But if he did lie, some might ask, what is the difference how they got him? A crime is a crime, regardless of what the FBI does to make him commit it, is it not? The answer to this is not necessarily.

Lying to the FBI is not a federal crime unless the lie is actually material to an investigation. Thus, if the FBI is investigating terrorism, and the subject falsely denies an extramarital affair, his lie would not be material. So is a lie material when the FBI already knows the truth because it has it on tape? Is it material if the only reason the FBI asked the question was not to get the subject to provide truthful information but to get him to lie?


And, as I showed above, the FBI lied to Congress. Where is their perjury conviction? When is the FBI conducting a pre-dawn raid at their house with a 29-member SWAT team in full tactical gear with assault weapons and CNN in tow?

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And, as I showed above, the FBI lied to Congress.

Except they didn't. At least, not in any way which can be proven. With Flynn it was different: he made very specific statements that could be verified to be lies.

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"Except they didn't."

Of course they did. You denying it doesn't make it untrue. The proof is right there in the testimony.

"he made very specific statements that could be verified to be lies."

Yes, and the FBI knew the truth before they asked him. So why ask the question, other than to trap him with perjury?

The point of my responses here is to call into question the motives of the FBI towards the Trump administration. It's obvious by their questioning of Flynn that they weren't looking for something Flynn had done wrong, but to create a situation where he would do something wrong.

Why would they be motivated to do that? Why would they be motivated to lie to the FISA court? Or leak information to the press? Or conduct a televised SWAT raid to arrest someone for perjury?

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Y U no PROVE your point?

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When one considers your English, I'm not sure if you'd understand.

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It was a joke you dumb fuck.

Again, you fucking coward,

PROVE YOUR POINT

OR

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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If you knew how to read and keep up, I wouldn't need to prove my point. There's enough news and info out there about it. But then, you've already let it be know what a dumb-ass you are. I don't expect much.

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#43 and his cunt of a wife are associated with people who mysteriously committed "suicide". How do you explain that?

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If you are a Dem, you can do just about anything and you won't see a day in prison.

If you are a Republican, they will hunt you down and find ANY crime you committed.

Honestly, if the police did nothing but investigate me, they are going to find something against.

But our system is innocent til proven guilty. The Dems have it reversed. Like Russia.

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Are you really that stupid?

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No. But you seem to be.

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Wow, great comeback. For a six year old.

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"I know you are, but what am I?"

Come on Pee Wee, you can do better than that.

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Who? For what crimes?

You mean like the Democrat “front runner for president” Michael Avenatti?

Or Andrew Cumo who’s had to resign in disgrace?

Or Joe Biden who’s about to resign in disgrace?

Or Democrat bestie to the Clintons, Stephanoppolis, Katie Curic, Jeff Epstein?

Wow that is a long list isn’t it. Funny they’re all from the party opposite the big Don.

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