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<blockquote>In any case this movie clearly altered history to make Oppenheimer look good.</blockquote> <i>Worse</i>, you mean. In the movie, the poisoned apple was an assassination attempt. In reality, it wasn't. I saw this movie in the theatres as well, and I never knew about "ID4" until this thread. Just because it latches itself into an existing universe doesn't mean it isn't self contained. I think you're struggling with the very concept of the word. Many (if not most) TV series have self-contained episodes. What that means is you don't need to have seen previous episodes to understand the plot in any given episode. The plot in this movie had nothing to do with the plots in the TV series Luther - it was beginning a new thread. This movie could be the only thing you've ever seen with Idris Elba in it, and you'd still be able to follow the plot with as much ease as someone who watched the entire series from start to finish. And that's what makes it self-contained. Good, so maybe you've learned from this. No - if it has flaws of any kind, then it cannot be perfect under any definition. Philosophy, nothing. What you're saying is lexically the same as "while it wasn't perfect, it sure was perfect". The original cast members who made a return were only there for one reason: bums on seats. How is it a good idea to kill off a fan favourite in the <i>first</i> movie of a trilogy? If you want gravitas, save it for last. In EVERY WAY was this a self contained movie. Unique plot is all that is required for that. It does not pick up where the series left off, as the series in no way pointed towards the plot of this movie. Being produced for the fans of the series is neither here nor there - take X-Files, for example. Most <i>episodes</i> are 100% self contained, as are the movies. I'm willing to bet you didn't realise ID4 was a title tag for Independence Day at all, until you came across this thread. It really didn't last very long, and only existed in the first place to avoid copyright claims as there was already an earlier movie called "Independence Day". This is actually something that bothered <i>me</i>, because the picture isn't located close to the front at all. It is closer towards the end, way past the half-way point. Of course, it could be a book containing only the books of Moses, but if it's the entire Bible then it's close to the very end of the OT. Not only that, but the picture is on the right side leaf - but when Indy opens the page for them, we catch a glimpse of the right hand side, and there is no illustration there at all. <i>Not only that</i>, but the close-up shows paper which is pristine and clearly quite modern, and does not match the binding at all. Not to mention the fact that the style of the illustration is clearly late 20th century. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joqX0_llyWE "ID" is short for "identification", and that's what everyone associates with that abbreviation. "4" gives no further clue. "4/7" would, but just "4" - ID4 what? Just makes it look like it's the fourth movie in a franchise. One single digit number evokes no associations to dates. In the case of Se7en, that's the title, not a tagline, and the poster lists every one of the sins. And one of the taglines: "Seven deadly sins. Seven ways to die." Sounds pretty clear to me. See, that's the whole point with taglines: they <i>elaborate</i> on the title, giving the audience a clue as to what the movie is about. View all replies >