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3,000 dead Americans is 'measure of success' for T-rump

posted 6 years ago by [deleted]
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Though T-rump may see the result of 3,000 Americans dead as the result of his handling the devastation of Puerto Rico as 'fantastic', others are seeing it quite differently. They are warning Americans to fend for themselves as Hurricane Florence approaches. One of them is journalist Sunny Hostin, who's family was directly impacted by the hurricane last year, and T-rump's ignoring of the situation.

Said Hostin yesterday on ABC, “If you’re in Florence’s path and considering riding it out, your president just said that a hurricane response where 3,000 die is his measure of success. Get out of there.”

Noting that experts said 90% of the 3,000 deaths were preventable if the government responded properly, she continued, “So we’re talking about the fact that this government allowed its own citizens to die. I thought that’s what we only saw in dictatorships.”

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

This morning he tweeted that the number is a lie created by the democrats. We basically have an Alex Jones-level conspiracy theorist in the White House.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

Who will STILL get defended on here. One of his staunchest defenders on here made the mistake on another board of asking a person he was attacking "Did you go to university..." which is a patently non-American way to say things. So, you know....obvious troll/bot looking to stir things up.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

As Hostin pointed out yesterday, he doesn't care about PR because they are not part of our elections - but they are part of America. He will probably pay attention to NC, SC, GA, etc because the GOP needs their votes in November.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Who will STILL get defended on here.

Yeah you called it. It’s really depressing actually.

[–] B1cKsurN (14896) 6 years ago

Again... For those that do not have TDS...

64 people died during the hurricane.

Since the Hurricane ended, more deaths have happened due to shit infrastructure, and corrupt local officials. A few weeks ago, the PR government inflated it from 64 to 3000+. Most people wouldn't know this either. Expect more of this nonsense between now and the midterms.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

How far up T-rump's ass is your head stuck?

[–] B1cKsurN (14896) 6 years ago

As far as it takes for you to find an actual argument.

[–] snepts (11123) 6 years ago

And Trump doesn't care about 64 or 3000+ Puerto Rican deaths. It's only political capital for him to fulminate over all the conspiracies against him.
Why would anyone dislike DJT? What does anyone have to gain? Couldn't be because he's a pox on all that we've tried to achieve in the past few decades? Let's grope women, let's banish brown-skinned foreigners, let's lie at every turn to try to make ourselves look successful, let's give tax cuts to business for a short term boost for appearance sake.
It's so disgusting, yet people will swallow the wrong pill just to maintain the status quo.

[–] Thrillhouse (1509) 6 years ago

You're lying. If you say all the mice are dying, and I say cats are doing well, I'm not the one exploiting a situation for political gain. You are. You just failed at it is all.

Trump is not even right wing. He's a moderate centrist, a Democrat from 20 years ago. The only reason not to like him is because he's resisting war. You look stupid when you complain about Trump doing minor things which good or bad are things every president does. If you are upset that Trump gropes women, imagine how upset I am that you're not burried under a pile of rubble in Libya and all the other places Nobel Peace prize winner Obama destroyed. To dislike Trump, you have to like every other politician. You as a man naturally want to protect women but you're too deranged to do it thinking they prefer death to groping as if being groped and paid a lot of money is even a problem.

The issue of 3000 versus 64 is an issue. It's the reason people lose trust for scientists or journalists and you should reconsidering doing it. The people saying 3000 are the same people who said Iraq had WMDs. Madeleine Albrecht literally said "a million dead Iraqi children wasn't enough". We know you don't care.

[–] KaiserDrumpf (1) 6 years ago

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[–] B1cKsurN (14896) 6 years ago

Those problems existed before the hurricane and Trump...where was your outrage for PR then?

Exactly, there wasn't. You give less of shit then the people you accuse.

[–] KaiserDrumpf (1) 6 years ago

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[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

You haven't been paying attention. The problem of PR's debt has been discussed on the floors of the House & Senate & the GOP decided to ignore - which EXACERBATED their financial problems.

People HAVE been talking about this. People HAVE cared.

Clearly, you weren't one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt-mpuR_QHQ

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

The shit infrastructure was a problem?

How so?* and also SO WHAT?

The hurricane washed out bridges & roads - so Trump's FEMA just shrugs & says "nothing more we can do here" & then LEAVES?

Trump has been crowing about the hospital ship which was brought into San Juan harbor. TEN DAYS after the storm, by the way. If there's no electricity on the island, no cell towers, no communication & no ROADS - how were people supposed to get treatment?

Remember it was Trump Swamp Cabinet Member RYAN ZINKE who gave a small MONTANA company the $300 MILLION DOLLAR contract to rebuild the electric grid. This company, Whitefish had one large project completed in its history before winning this contract - they built a row of floodlights along 100 miles of a Montana highway.

NEVER before had they worked on such a large project - they just were not fucking QUALIFIED.

The HOW SO? about Puerto Rican infrastructure is a GOP created catastrophe. It's another story to be laid squarely at the feet of the GOP who refused to restructure PRdebt - which was exacerbated by GOP banking policies re pensions & the crisis caused by the GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE under W's reign of error.

[–] snepts (11123) 6 years ago

When taxes are cut, government has less revenue. I think a reasonably bright teenager could figure this out.
So when government is supposed to do it's job, which is to support the citizens, the government can't do it, because it doesn't have the revenue lost due tax cuts.
And where did this money go? The pockets of the elites, the owners, and the stockholders.
Aren't tax cuts wonderful?

[–] Thrillhouse (1509) 6 years ago

That is not how taxes work. The money didn't "go" anywhere. It was kept where people chose to spend it, rather than where the government chose to spend it. When we spend money, we buy food, houses, and televisions. When the government spends money, it buys bombs and sex changes. How many people do you know who buy products from Raytheon or Halliburton? That's what taxes are for. The zionist media tricked you into doing their bidding.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Nikki Haley spent $52,000 in our tax money to buy curtains for her new condo. You forgot to mention that!

[–] Daggerboard (581) 6 years ago

Haley had nothing to do with it. The Obama admin made the purchase in 2016.

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

Norm Eisen was US Ambassador to Czechoslovakia under President Obama. Here's what he had to say about this GOP "Obama made the purchase" bullshit:

"I paid for my own damn curtains when I was an ambassador—& much more. Cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. (My wife is still mad.) What the hell is the matter with these people—they see taxpayers as chickens to be plucked. Well, voters are soon gonna say “pluck you.”

[–] Daggerboard (581) 6 years ago

You know, you're right. Smaller government is best. Big government wastes too darned much. We shouldn't even be part of the U.N. It should cease to exist. No U.N., no ambassadors wasting our hard-earned money!! The Department of Education should go, too. Too politicized. Does D.C. think states and local communities are too stupid to set appropriate standards? The left certainly thinks so.

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

Looky here! Rick "Oops!" Perry has chimed in with his 2 cents worth of squirrel nuggets.

GOPricks love talking about how bad government is - and they prove it by really sucking at governing.

What's a little graft, corruption, crassness, pettiness, incompetence & outright theft when there's a point to be made about how bad government is?

BTW - The UN has ONE ambassador, the world has ~195 countries - most have ambassadors.

Thanks for revealing yourself as a hissy fitting drama queen who can't follow the simplest chain of thought.

[–] Daggerboard (581) 6 years ago

The U.S. has had more than one U.N. ambassador in its history, hence the plural usage. And that wasn't a hissy fit, I was agreeing with your quote. I also agree the GOP has failed at governing in D.C.

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 6 years ago

Not really. The DEMS muck it up and then the GOP has to fix it.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 6 years ago

Only in your up is down, black is white, right is wrong alterverse.

In the real world it's the other way around. Reagan throttles the debt, Clinton pays it off, Bush throttles it again, takes us into an unneeded war, AND destroys the economy ignoring fiscal regulation, Obama halves the debt and pulls us out of Great Recession brought on by Bush and instills much needed fiscal regulation to prevent it from happening again. Trump blows the debt wide open again and destroys regulatory reform that will herald in the next recession.

You clearly don't live in the universe of facts.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Nicely summarized!

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 6 years ago

How many sox do u own? hahahah

lol

[–] Daggerboard (581) 6 years ago

That's true, Ackbar, but the GOP had the chance to take care of Obamacare, the border, the budget, etc., and they have failed.

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 6 years ago

Good point. Sadly the GOP is turning into the DEMS.

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

What bullshit. And with an anti-Semitic twist, to boot!

This latest GOP tax cut is going to expire for 90% of Americans - but never for the top 10%. So sales of luxury goods - like yachts are booming - but there's no equal boom to manufacturing -which means Middle-Class spending - on goods like food, school, homes & electronics.

Trickle Down FAILED. Want proof? Look at Kansas.

Our taxes fund our values. If you value education, the health & well being of our senior citizens, the safety of our country - then you don't complain about PAYING for those things. WE PAY for those things. We don't BUY IN to them.

And YES, tax money DID go away. We're fighting wars - on tax cuts? Did your grandparents work hard to fight for tax cuts during World War 2? Or did they ration goods to support the cause?

Government spending is our government INVESTING in citizens & communities. Our military, infrastructure, the VA, our schools, our courts, our roads, our cops, our Coast Guard are institutions that benefit our country.

We invest in them BEFORE crises hit.

And you can go fuck off with your "zionist media" bullshittery. Right now.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Actually, the yacht business is booming in America, but nowhere else in the world thanks to T-rump's tariffs. Boat-makers were interviewed this summer, and reported one of the worst summers ever, thanks to T-rump. The millions of dollars in orders for the summer from Europe especially were cancelled because of the tariffs.

[–] brux (14666) 6 years ago

Gosh, do you post on Trump every day so many times? Wow, I have to admire your persistence.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Yes, each and every day. It’s important.

[–] Rorikon (16442) 6 years ago

http://fortune.com/2018/09/12/fema-unused-water-bottles-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-victim/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/us/puerto-rico-aid.html
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218250855.html

Not really Trump's fault if at all. FEMA was not prepared (as with Katrina) as well as the corrupt government entities in PR to distribute the food properly to the right places. Sure I guess he could've responded faster but eh, the shit happening now shows it wouldn't really have made that much of a difference imo.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

"The buck stops here"

Remember that?

[–] Thrillhouse (1509) 6 years ago

You are one of two things. An atheist who has found god in a government whose job is to tie your shoes and protect you from bad dreams and volcano demons. Or, a criminal who wants massive subsidies dumped into a third world country where the banks get to control it. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are strongly opposed to the Puerto Rican independence movement, which is what reveals this whole thing is a big lie about Puerto Rico being a victim rather than a parasite.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

Wow....you really are 20 lbs of crazy in a 5 lb sack, aren't you?

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

Pay no attention to the igno-ranter Thrillhouse.

This is a post about what we expect our government to do.

It's not a post for Thrillhouse's tired, regurgitated & hysterically hyperbolic "oh, you want a nanny state government off my back" bullshit.

No. Taking care of US citizens after a disaster is the very LEAST we should expect our government to do.

It's been a year since Hurricane Maria. WHERE IS THE GOP OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT WENT WRONG?

Puerto Rico isn't a parasite on the US - US corporations & the GOP have fed off of Puerto Rico for decades. It's where Thrillhouse's free VIAGRA was manufactured.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 6 years ago

You understand FEMA is headed by a corrupt Trump appointee. How could that not be Trump's fault?

What is it with Republicans always appointing corrupt swamp monsters to head up FEMA? "Heckava job Brownee" remember that? Now, Brock Long might give Brownee a challenger for most incompetent FEMA head ever. Instead of preparing for Hurricane season, as is his job, he skips out on work and spends so much time at his home in North Carolina while still getting paid that the DHS head asked he resign and he refused.

Yeah Katrina was Bush's fault for directing funds away from solidifying the levees and caused the disaster in New Orleans. Just like Maria and PR are Trump's fault for FEMA's lack of preparedness when he appoints the agency head.

And what about all the millions he directed away from FEMA to ICE?

Your apologism for Trump's negligence is gross.