Is Trump racist? - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] Keelai (32064) 6 years ago

Of course, he is. He and his father were sued for discriminating against blacks and Hispanics in housing. He started his political career with racism by lying about Obama not being an American and suggesting he was really a Muslim thereby implying Obama was part of a Muslim conspiracy to destroy a "White Christian nation". Trump's racist attack on several black men who were falsely accused and acquitted which he never apologized for.

Racists use coded messages all of the time. His repeated attacks on Mexicans and his desire to ban Muslims. His belief that Muslims who commit mass murder are terrorists, but whites doing the same are mentally ill. The KKK and neo-Nazi party support him for a reason. He knows that there are some members of his base who are racists and he makes sure to do and say things that will appeal to them. He has also appointed white supremacists and racists like Steve Bannon and Jeff Sessions.

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[–] McQualude (4231) 6 years ago

It doesn't really matter what he "is" it only matters what he "does." He courted racists during the election and promotes policies that could be considered racist.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

According to liberals, anyone who disagrees with them is a racist.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

According to racists, anyone who disagrees with them is liberal.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Chuck, proving my point.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Lol

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[–] sanusense (3) 6 years ago

I don't think so. He's just doing whatever he wants to do. Standing for natives won't make you racist.

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 6 years ago

where is he "standing for natives"?

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[–] samoanjoes (51267) 6 years ago

I think he means "natives" as born in USA, not aboriginal. Anyway, I think don't think he's racist, I think he's a hardcore preservationist. USA everything! Anything not USA is bad! USA has to be #1!

Having said that, while I don't think he's racist, I think he is a complete idiot.

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 6 years ago

so, you mean white immigrants. ^^

i disagree though, he is an idiot AND a racist. i would not rule out a mental illness.

ironically nobody has damaged the USA more in the recent years than him. to be quite frank i am 100% sure that he does not give a flying crap about america.

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[–] samoanjoes (51267) 6 years ago

I don't think it's necessarily white immigrants. Born and bred American.s Though I am sure he is happy white people are the majority. Either way, I'm not American, so I'm glad it's not my issue.

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 6 years ago

the thing is that countries are only a socioeconomic construct, so there are only one kind of "natives": the people that lived there first. nevertheless, scientifically we are all natives everywhere, because we started of as one continent. there is nothing like a born and bred american. what if i was born in hawaii, before it was part of the US? know what i mean? ^^

the thing is, that in case you live in europe, it will become your problem. the same right wing tactics are pretty succesful over there at the moment as well. poland is close to social collapse, the UK brexit has been the worst scams since "the bliar", yes even germany has another rise of the ultra right. can you imagine that? germany? they did not learn from the last time?

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

"so there are only one kind of "natives": the people that lived there first"

So now we're just making up our own definitions for words?

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 6 years ago

1. i am pretty sure you tend to do that.

as for me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples

"ethnic groups who are the original inhabitants of a given region, in contrast to groups that have settled, occupied or colonized"

so, if you are white, then you are no native anywhere on the american continent.

2. you are a plural? how? both genders? or do you think you are royalty?

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Seriously? You think I'm too stupid to notice you switched out 'native' for 'indigenous peoples'? Fucking moron.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/native
Definition of native in English:
native
noun
1 A person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
‘a native of Montreal’
‘an eighteen-year-old Brooklyn native’

So the dictionary says native means 'A person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth', and you say "there are only one kind of "natives": the people that lived there first"

You're an idiot.

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 6 years ago

"You think I'm too stupid"

absolutely.

from the same article i refered to:

"Indigenous peoples, also known as first peoples, aboriginal peoples, native peoples"

not to mention that it is the direct redirect from the term native:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native

on the other hand i find your choice of choice positively surprising. so you would agree, if i said that every person, born in the USA is a native american, no matter what previous heritage and religion, right?

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

"absolutely."

Of course you do. While proving how stupid you are.

"if i said that every person, born in the USA is a native American"

Once again, you're dishonestly trying to change which words are being used. No one in this thread mentioned 'native American', which is obviously different than 'native'. Someone even mentioned "I think he means "natives" as born in USA, not aboriginal."

But yes, every person born in America is a native of America. It's the definition of the word. At least crack open a dictionary before you use words you don't understand.

Seriously, are you really this stupid?

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Actually, it is you that’s stupid. You’ve taken the term “Native American” out of the context it was offered and are using it to avoid the question put to you.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Huh? The context was obvious. He said this:

"so you would agree, if i said that every person, born in the USA is a native american, no matter what previous heritage and religion, right?"

We all understand what 'native American' means. It refers to the people living in America before the Europeans arrived. So that was his lame attempt at claiming my logic means that every person born in the USA is one of those 'indigenous' people.

So, either you're dishonest, or you're too stupid to understand the difference between 'native American' and 'native of America.'

Which is it?

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Yup, youre dumb. His question is pretty straight forward. Youre clinging to semantics in a vain effort not to look like the mouth breathing neck beard you are.

Just answer his question and move on.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

And there you have it. No rebuttal to my points. Just calling me names.

So, are you saying there's no difference between a 'Native American' and a 'native of America'?

Come on, prove you're not really as stupid as you sound.

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[–] legnadibrom (5733) 6 years ago

he is not

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Trump wasn't called a racist until he ran against the Democrats.

It's what they do. Label everyone who disagrees with them as a racist, bigot, homophobe, etc. It's much easier than defending their positions.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

He wasn’t called a racist until he made that speech about Mexicans. Do you have any arguments that aren’t completely made up?

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Which is the day he started running against the Democrats.

And Mexican isn't a race.

Fuck, you really are an idiot, aren't you?

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Ah the old mexican isnt a race card. Fantastic. Mexican may not be a race, but seeing as "mexican" is used a blanket term for all south americans it is racist term.

Perhaps youd be more comfortable with the label of bigot? His bigotery against those of non white heritage would make him A, a racist. B, a moron, or C, both?

Hows about this. YOu tell me why hes not a racist? If hes not a racist it should be pretty easy to rebuff the accusation other than "whatabout", "liberal propaganda", or "fuck you, idiot". You see people that arent bigoted might say the wrong thing ever now and again. But when you have your first speech prepared and passed by countless people that are supposed to be making sure you reach the most minds to get votes is nothing more than seething hatred and biased opinion about a group of people, its pretty clear what you are.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

"Ah the old mexican isnt a race card."

Mexican isn't a race, you fucking idiot. You're the one who said he was a racist for comments about Mexicans. So now you're saying he was talking about all South Americans?

Hahahahaha, what a moron.

"Perhaps youd be more comfortable with the label of bigot?"

As I said. slapping those labels on people you disagree with is the only argument you have. Only you fucking libtards accuse people who want a strong border and a stop to illegal immigration with being a racist.

And I can prove he's not a racist by pointing to the lack of evidence of him being one. And no, wanting to build a border wall doesn't make someone a racist. despite your liberal fantasies.

"making sure you reach the most minds to get votes is nothing more than seething hatred and biased opinion about a group of people"

Only in your delusional mind did Trump do that. To you idiots, wanting to keep illegal aliens out of the country is 'seething hatred'.

What a fucking joke. No wonder Trump won, with all you brain-dead voters supporting Democrats.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Holy shit! You’re are one dumb guy. I swear to god I thought they just made it up when they said people were as stupid as you, but here you are.

As for libtard, don’t you racist, bigoted pieces of shit have any other put downs? Because that isn’t really a very good insult. Stronger borders? Don’t make me laugh. You’re small minded buffoon with no grasp of what it is that’s being done to you. For one thing you’re dumb enough to believe trump is on your side. I would let you away with that at the start, but now? You must be a special kind of stupid to bury your head so far in the sand you think he gives a toss about the average american.

Second, you’re also dumb enough to believe that left and right political parties are actually at war with each other. Red or blue, it’s the same ducking thing. How can you not see it? Obama, Hilary, trump, whoever, it’s all the same. There give and take just enough to piss of either side, you muppets buy into it. And I do mean you muppets in the sense of both sides of the argument.

When will idiots like you start to realise that your true opposition are the rich the old men getting fat off your taxes? Wake up and stop being an idiot. The hippy that pays too much for some weird coffee can’t hurt you. Only the guy your defending can and has hurt you. You’re just too caught up and left and right to notice.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

Oh no, a liberal is bloviating again. All bullshit, and no logical debating points.

If there's no difference between the parties, then what difference does it make who you vote for? If you really believe that, you should've voted for Trump. Make's no difference, right? Moron.

And yeah, according to your dumbass liberals, us conservatives should be upset with what Trump is doing. Problem is, that's based on your warped view of the world. From my point of view, Trump is doing everything he can to come through on his promises, but he's being blocked from both the left and the right. There's still more draining of the Washington swamp us voters need to do.

And there goes the typical class warfare whining from you idiots. We're all poor because the rich people are stealing our money. The same Socialist bullshit you leftists have been peddling for the past century.

Just more liberal ranting from one of the morons who've been unhinged for the past year. Trump is a racist! He's the next Hitler! He's a fascist!

Hahahahaha. Retard.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Trump or Hilary? Yeah, a great choice. And by the way snowflake, I’m not an American. I don’t get bombarded by your 24/7 propaganda machine. Outside the walls of the nuthouse everyone is laughing at you all going batshit crazy over everything and nothing. You think your vote actually counted? Lol what a nutbar. Here let me help you. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp, right? And yet he just made it possible for that swamp to pay less taxes, taking money from hard working middle class Americans to do so. He said he’d build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, yet anyone with even a little sense knew that it was impossible to build a wall along the border because of the type of land that’s there. The upkeep alone of such a wall would bankrupt the us in no time.

What would Hilary have done? Not much different. Obviously she would have had to play the part of the “good guy”, but you know her mates in Wall Street would have been ok. The drone would have continued to fly, the guns still would t be regulated and universal healthcare still would t be a thing. Why do you think the dnc screwed Bernie out the nom? Because he wouldn’t have played ball like Clinton.

Trump gave you a villain, and told you he’d be going after that villain. In fact he gave you a bunch of villains. Muslims, the Mexicans, immigrants, Hilary herself. Yet, she’s still not in jail. Funny that, huh?

It’s a back and forth. You get to feel like your winning now, then it will be the blue turn again. Circles, that’s what us politics is, circles. The appearance of victories, that aren’t really.

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[–] SnagsWolf (1172) 6 years ago

"I’m not an American"

Then why am I wasting my time, debating you on political points? Like American liberals, you have no love of this country.

Blocked, you dumb ass.

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[–] ChuckFindlay (392) 6 years ago

Lol

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[–] Rorikon (16444) 6 years ago

Secret racist imo but he sucks at hiding it. Anyway I don't care if someone is racist as long as they don't try to hinder peoples progress of just living normally in life.

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[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 6 years ago

No he is not.

😎

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