can't believe they had the guts
https://pagesix.com/2017/10/14/harvey-weinstein-booted-from-the-academy/?_ga=2.238326791.641785662.1499716181-1744016199.1489287649
Wow!!!
Im actually shocked...i cant believe all the bigwigs didnt simply circle the wagons for dirty old Harvey...maybe he is totally doomed...
He certainly deserves it...
Not sure why you say that. It's been open season on him for a week now. People are going to start throwing their spines out of alignment in the attempt to heap their very own shovel of sh*t on him.
Maybe it's just the contrarian in me, but these spectacles make me nauseous. How many of those academy members have their own casting couch stories to hide?
I especially love this tidbit from one of the newest accusers, who says he forced her to kiss him, then afterward forced her to take a private jet flight with him:
After filming ended, the actress said Weinstein took her luggage from security and forced her to fly on his private jet back to New York rather than on her commercial flight.
“So I get on the plane, I walk up and I go, “Harvey, you motherf—,” she recalled. “He’s just sitting there. He pats his hand on the seat next to him, and he’s like, ‘See, Melissa, you can’t say no to me. I always get what I want.'"
They don't have any guts. It would have taken guts to keep him on, but the academy, like most liberal institutions, move with the tide of public outcry. Had they kept him on they would never live it down how they defended a rapist. This way they can say they were standing up for women, which we all know they weren't. They're just building a moat around themselves before the forest fire gets out of hand.
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Because of his connections. The same reason everyone knew about him but never said anything. It was more economical for them to keep his secret. But now it;s not anymore. Which is why you see the entire industry now acting like they were appalled and shocked by it and jumped on the opportunity to throw him under the bus.
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I wouldn't have anything happen differently, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. They're only throwing him under the bus now because it's "safe". Infact if it was up to me I'd have made sure this man was behind bars and had his membership revoked upon entry. They still allowed him to win his awards and make his money and cast terror in the hearts of fragile young women for two decades prior though. They knew about him, but did nothing about it, because it was better for them not to. They only thought about themselves.
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BS. Let's not pretend they were too stupid to know what was happening. They weren't mentally handicapped. They knew exactly what was going on. They knew 100% that they were being abused, and they said nothing. Because their lifestyle was worth letting it happen.
My problem is when you see women like Gweneth Paltrow comment and how she was abused by him, and how she wants to close the gender pay gap and all that feminist garbage, but then you see her thanking him during award ceremonies.
Or how Meryl Streep, even if she didn't know about Harvey in particular, knew about the rape culture festering within her industry. She loves to champion for womens rights and all that horse shit but then watch as she takes the stage saying she's "very sad" that Roman Polanski is in jail for his rape of a 13yo girl.
It's the two faced nature of the industry that is so revolting.
We are talking about an entire industry that constantly pats themselves on their backs as the moral arbiters of society and then turns around and does the exact opposite. And worse, enables it. How much flak did they give Donald Trump during the election for his locker room banter? Just over his banter. Nothing more. And yet they allow this to go on behind the public's back?
It's nauseating to think about. Hollywood has some major, major skeletons in its closet that it needs to dig out before they go suggesting where OUR values should lie. They made their bed, so sleep in it.
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I'm pretty sure his brother and the company wanted to get rid off him and leaked info to the media - there were exposes from NY Times and NY Observer one day apart.
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<< It's the two faced nature of the industry that is so revolting. >>
What you sound naive about is thinking this mess is something isolated to the film industry.
Don't you know this dynamic is part of the female experience?
Women have to put up with this crap in all industries. We have a president who reveled in "grabbing women by the pu$$y," and we voted him into office knowing that.
It's obviously not a scorching concern in our society.
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Did you even read my reply? I blame the victims of his assaults JUST as much as I do the predator. It's not good enough to say "women innocent victims big bad scary man do all harm to innocent womens".
EVERY SINGLE WOMAN that he abused and is now coming forward with their testimonies, KNEW about it and what he was doing, and said NOTHING. They are ENTIRELY complicit in the current status of Hollywood. Their deafening silence on Weinstein, while outspoken nature of Trump, is EXACTLY the kind of ironic, liberal feminist hypocrisy I'm outlining.
You don't get to say that Harvey Weinstein did it and therefore only he is to blame. No. They are ALL to blame. Every single one of them that swept it under the rug and kept it a secret for the sake of their wealth and status and rich bitch lifestyles. These WOMEN enabled him and allowed it to fester throughout the industry and just because he was at the top and called all the shots doesn;t mean jack to an entire industry that allows him to do what he does.
It only took one single woman to tape his behavior and get it leaked and was willing to risk it all to do it for these now alleged victims to come out of the woodwork like a bunch of cockroaches getting their shovels in. It could have happened sooner, but it didn't. Because it wasn't just men that perpetrated it, it was women as well. Their silence spoke volumes.
Rose Mcgowan herself who is coming forward as a victim, defended Victor Salva over his molestation of a 12yo boy. Meryl Streep again with Polanski. Stop pretending like women had no power to change things. They just didn't want to. They didn't care. They ignored it and joked about it and cared nothing about the future harm he would be inflicting on newcomers to the industry. Enough with the constant "woe is women because man" horseshit. If there's one thing that sickens me as much as what Harvey did, it's pretending that women were powerless to stop it.
"make his money and cast terror in the hearts of fragile young women for two decades prior though."
Thats what it seems like to me. The way woman are telling the story nearly all of hollywood knew about this guy. So why then were woman still meeting up with this guy?
To me all this sounds like every one including the woman accepted this as how the industry is in hollywood which surprises me considering how progressive hollywood is. I suspect this problem is wide spread so now we are left to wonder are there going to be huge droves of other actors and directors taking the fall as women start outing them or will the industry quitly clean itself up.
Thats just it. No one wants to be his friend now. Every ones busy trying to pretend they really didn't know him that well and most will claim they had no idea about his activities.
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I like the quote Kate Winslet gave the L.A. Times:
"“The fact that I’m never going to have to deal with Harvey Weinstein again as long as I live is one of the best things that’s ever happened and I'm sure the feeling is universal.”
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she currently starring in a Woody Allen movie - the irony of it.
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He's such a grey area. His daughter says she molested him...but he wasn't convicted.
Who knows...
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Even as a hardcore atheist, I know I don’t want to go to the grave with the epitaph “accused, but never convicted” when it comes to a charge like that.
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shareYup. Not so “grey”.
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Michael Jackson went through two trials and was found not guilty...but does anyone reqally think he was A-Okay?
I don't think so : o
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So we’re in complete agreement, as long as we don’t go back to our original disagreement over the demonic possum.
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LOVE ME, LOVE MY POSSESSED POSSUM!
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But in other news: Bill Cosby's another one. Technically, a Not Guilty verdict....but who wants to be alone with him???
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No one except the victims’ families.
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Maybe Weinstein getting expelled from the Academy really WILL bring about some change in at least SOME abusers in Hollywood.
If they see there are actual repercussions, maybe they'll just call a hooker like everyone else, and leave performers who are obviously not interested alone?
I wonder if the Producers Guild of America can/will drop him, too?
(This is one of the few situations I can actually say about with a straight face, "Well THAT escalated quickly!")
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I think any group that can drop him will do so.
shareAnd yet he's no longer your avatar. 🤔 He bit you, didn't he?
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HE WAS STOLEN ! ! !
(Actually, photobucket has gone through this inconvenient development where now you have to pay $300+ a year to link to photos in your library there...as was the case with my kindly, gentle little possum.)
I must find a new host body for him before he can reappear at moviechat : (
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They should have done it long ago!
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