Los Angeles


I've seen a few older b&w films lately where they pronounce Los Angeles with a hard "g" - as in golf. When did the shift change to the soft "g" that everyone uses now?

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Was that pronunciation used to indicate that someone was a yokel, and definitely not from Los Angeles?

BTW, the correct Spanish pronunciation would be "los an-*hell*-ees", because in Spanish the letter "j" is pronounced like the English "h". We Anglos at least pronounce San Jose with the correct "j" sound, but not the one in "Angeles". Funny about that

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Trend how? I've lived here for 20 years and I've always heard it with a soft G.

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You're confusing me. Just because I teach phonics doesn't mean I know everything.

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Is that not the normal pronunciation then? I've always said it that way. I can't remember what I was watching recently (just had autoplay on youtube) but I've seen films with Robert Cummings and James Stuart before where they say the hard G.

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Huh...the only one that I ever heard pronounce it that way is Bugs Bunny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TUwHTfOOU&t=6s

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Nice.

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https://youtu.be/rUQwIGYi85s?t=138

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good find

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Originally and in Spanish the "g" is pronounced as an "h". It's never been a hard "g". The Anglicized version was always a soft "g". People in LA would consider a hard "g" ignorant.


There was once heated debate over how to pronounce “Los Angeles.” The Spanish pronunciation of the name has long been “Loce AHN-heh-less.” Yet, non-Spanish speaking Angelenos seemed to prefer the harder-sounding anglicized version “Loss ANN-ja-less.” The anglicized version was adopted, in 1934, by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names.

In 1952, Los Angeles Mayor Fletcher Bowron assembled a panel to come up with the city’s own official pronunciation of its name. The panel included language professors, radio announcers and journalists. They agreed to the anglicized version "Loss ANN-ju-less." Even so, some early 1950s Los Angeles travel films still used alternative pronunciations, such as "Loss ANN-geh-less" (with a hard "G").

Today, with the exception of those who use the city’s original Spanish pronunciation, “Los Angeles” is commonly pronounced according to the anglicized version

https://www.laalmanac.com/geography/ge13c.php

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"Loss ANN-ju-less"

I hear it as "loss ann-jah-less"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo92XcY-2_k

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I say "juh", not "jew". 🤣

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHx8ClxLwyI&t=62s

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Actually, you can call West Side LA, the Fairfax district and Beverly Hills Los An-JEW-les. 🤣

When I went to UCLA back in the 80's, they called it JEW-CLA.

I hope I don't get in trouble for that!

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Turkey is now Turkiye pronounced Toor-keyeh

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I've noticed that on a few news programs.

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It appears some people pronounced it that way years ago. There's a 9- year old thread about it:
https://moviechat.org/tt0099703/The-Grifters/58c753936b51e905f6780292/Whats-with-the-hard-g-in-Los-Angeles

Online:
"Jun 16, 2004 · Sam Yorty was the mayor of Los Angeles from 1961 to 1973, and he pronounced it with the hard G (“loss ANgle-ese”)."

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