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Romantic Movies No Longer Have Sparks


Redundant stories, bad writing, bad acting, no chemistry, no sparks. At the end of the movie, I don't care if he gets the girl or not.

Can you say that about Marcello Mastroianni and Sophia Loren?

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I think romance itself takes spark and passion but more importantly it requires traditional responses from the male and female leads. The old fashioned chase which would now be defined as stalking and not taking no for an answer.

Hard to create that when you have a world where being male is enough to have you branded a rapist. Not to mention it also takes women who will inspire such romance and desire in a man and despite Woke theory, most men just aren't that impressed by tattoo's, weird hair styles/piercings and political rants.

Also if you watch a lot of older films you notice man and woman get on each others nerves a lot. Sometimes the woman is even (trigger warning) put over the man's knee and spanked thus showing woman that she is indeed physically weaker than the male. That said she still has her feminine prowess which she uses to great effect.

Can't have that now. Man must be weak and stupid, woman supreme.

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Thank you for the trigger warning. I hope others that are sensitive will heed it. 😃

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lol

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If you're yearning to see a woman get spanked and shown who's boss than you can always turn to all those wonderful "50 Shades" films.

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lol I find Western's are much better for that particular activity!

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Nah, porn is way better.

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For one thing they seem to forget about chemistry. Chemistry can even breathe a mediocre film to life but it's not automatic and it's not about just throwing 2 attractive or famous people together.
If the power of a film is based on that magic then they should screen test before they commit to the actors and to film.
And writing...? What happened to originality and creativity in Hollywood?

My brother recently became hooked on K-drama's and has been watching them exclusively for about 3 months. Also the Korean films. He says they're less predictable and feel fresher to him. Particularly the romances.
I haven't developed the same habit but I do get his point.

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I know the feeling. Many times over the years I have discovered different foreign genres that don’t follow Hollywood’s money making formula.

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Fair point
The South Koreans make some great crime thrillers that are unlike anything Hollywood could come up with

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Give me a couple of titles to look up.

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Bedevilled
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
Mother
I Saw the Devil
Oldboy
The Chaser
Thirst
The Host
Lady Vengeance

Most are crime, several were horrors, there are many more readily available and they are usually WAY better than our fancy Hollyweird flicks
Youtube also has a few excellent S Korean features unedited and available...I do recall one about a crazy pet store owner that moonlighted as a serial killer...great movie, if I think of the name I'll get back to you👍

Oh, and as long as we're going on about Asian films I'd suggest Fallen Angels (95) ...a bit off topic as it was made in Hong Kong but it's loaded with action and has one of the most heart breaking romantic subplots ever!
Watch that final scene and try NOT imaging that girl's arms around you as you speed into the night on your motorbike, just you and her😍

Asians, much like the French and Italians, can sure as hell make a fine movie!


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Asian movies are too melodramatic sometimes, but I still like them.

Lust, Caution (2007) is my all time favorite.

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That goes back to what I was getting at. If men and women are at logger heads then it is going to be difficult for an actor and actress to form that chemistry because they also lack that background. Also takes good writing which Hollyweird is bankrupt of.

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It's funny that you mentioned K-drama. I'm a huge anime/manga fan and will read or watch hentai from time to time. Last year, I discovered the Korean version of hentai and my mind was absolutely blown. No matter how kinky Korean hentai gets, it's always romantic, as in guy wants girl, girl betrays guy, guy hates girl (think she's a raving slut, gold digger or loser), guy learns from girl's best friend that she has emotional issues (was acting out because she was lonely/abused/etc.), guy forgives girl and decides to love her (to help her heal her wounds), guy and girl live happily ever after.

Keep in mind that these Korean hentais will always have graphic sex, kinky stuff (threesomes, prostitution, etc.), but every single one of them will always end on this sweet, upbeat, "I forgive you and I will love you always," note.

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Here another anime/manga/kdrama fan.

In general, and unless Japanese media, K-Drama is extremely conservative. It's good and addictive, I love it, but it always follows a set of very specific patterns. That's indeed my biggest issue with it, since it becomes predictable.

Regarding the "I forgive you and I will love you always": in Korean storytelling, fate plays a very important role. No matter what, characters that are destined to be together will end up together. Forgiving, more than sweet, it's a necessary part of their destiny. It couldn't be otherwise. In the same way, characters often move away in the last chapter, becoming separated for months before the final scene. This is a very common trope, and it's some kind of proof of destiny: since they're bounded to be together, the final proof is to be separated for a while.

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I only see romantic movies when my wife gets to the remote before I do so I'm no expert, but yes, most of them are a real bore

Prizzi's Honor was a very good one but it was mostly about the mob so I'm not sure if it counts...

The final scene in Casablanca might be the standout for most romantic and heartbreaking scene I've ever watched

Very few 'romantic' movies feel genuine

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Modern-day romantic movies are ridiculously bad

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I agree

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The redundant stories and bad writing are kind of to be expected. But the no chemistry is where they really fail for me.

I chalk it up to choosing bankable actors over the two people who are right for the story and who work well together. For example, in Last Christmas, Emilia Clarke and Henry Golding might make sense to studio execs. But I can't think of one viewer who would say they ever pictured these two as a believable couple. I still think it's weird seeing them in the trailer.

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agree

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Right? Can't even name the last time I watched a believable romance on screen.

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Have you seen the Lady Gaga movie?

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No. But then again, should I have to watch a movie where the couple are romantically involved in real life to find believable chemistry? Seems like cheating. Also, it doesn't look like my cup of tea.

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I've watched You've Got Mail (1998) several times over the years, and really enjoyed the chemistry between Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan.

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Check the original movie, The Shop Around The Corner. It's the same story (You've got Mail is like a remake/rewriting), and it's lovely. I use to watch it in xmas.

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keyword: believable!

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You're not going to have decently-written romances in a depraved, hedonistic society that no longer cares about traditional values like family and life-long monogamy and only sees relationships in terms of "fuck buddies" and "friends with benefits."

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When hasn't society been hedonistic? You say traditional values? What values specifically? The great films of the 1930s or 1970s didn't necessarily reflect society. Some displayed the better characteristics and sensibilities. But there's been many movies that critiqued modern society. These movies aren't doing it. The only one I can think of that had some relevance to the modern-day was "I, Daniel Blake"

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You say traditional values? What values specifically?


Did you literally just stop reading past the part "traditional values" and then completely block out everything I said after?

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From memory the last "romance" film that I thought was both well-made and emotionally convincing was 'The Bridges of Madison County'. Clint and Meryl made me believe, and I think there must have been something caught in my eye at the end..

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Meryl's accent was so awful.

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