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We must observe an honor code of conduct


If we are to function as a community, then it is imperative that we agree on what is unacceptable. Jim, I hold deep gratitude for your labor in maintaining the essence of the original forum and intend no disrespect. Simply, I wish to express concerns that I have about problematic policies from our previous setting that some people on here are considering replicating. I urge the staff of this board to not create a feature for ignoring others because that only encourages more bullying and offensive comments. It abets the belief in certain individuals that they are exempt from rules, and lessens the chance of sorting out disagreements. This board should be free of personal attacks including name calling and profanity, things that the former location has allowed, and it would be ideal for the latter to be banned altogether. A suggestion for the bewildering issue of disabled members is to apply the law that employers follow: those with conditions that do not prevent normal interaction with others are welcome, and those with conditions that do are not. On the Internet Movie Database there has been a young man with a very peculiar mental impairment that causes odd fixations, obnoxious outbursts, and repetitious speech, and an older woman with histrionic personality disorder who viciously harasses the majority of people whom she speaks to. Such actions are highly inappropriate and no one should be subject to those here. A discussion board should be a place where everyone can comfortably and civilly share thoughts. Instabilities may not be the faults of patients who bear ones, but those are certainly not ours either, and members should not be forced, at their expenses, to tolerate the side effects of others' anomalies. The worst problems on the first forum have been a lack of control and no discipline. Even the reporting option has never gotten anywhere because our last 'moderators' have always been notorious for neglecting complaints. We need to work together on these matters to ensure that MovieChat does not suffer the same fate that has met our predecessor. I would gladly moderate since I can easily spot abnormal behavior, but am afraid that it is currently not feasible. Complications make it impossible for me to be bound to a routine here, and it would be very unfair to all members if I only worked occasionally. Nevertheless, I have great value for our spectrum of connections to each other and hope to continue it in ways that surpass what we have been given elsewhere.

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Minitron, what does TLDR stand for? Wilson, maybe you have misunderstood my post. I am trying to promote a comfortable environment for everyone and have said that I cannot be a moderator anyway. You will see that all of my suggestions are in favor of controlling bullying and other inappropriate comments, not barring people unnecessarily which I agree would be unjust. I specifically mention those individuals only to explain the difference between behavior that is merely quirky and actions that bring other members consternation. Surely you do not wish to be harassed any more than I do, and there is no need to lash out at me for offering ways to avoid that very action so that no one has to endure it. You are demonstrating the issue that I am attempting to prevent for the sakes of all of us. After seeing Jim request suggestions, I have joined the others who have responded. As surprising as you might find it, I am speaking out of consideration. Power is not my interest. I only wish to be helpful.

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"TLDR" means "too long, didn't read".

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I'm with you Wilson, but it appears that you and I, and perhaps a few others are in the extreme minority here. One member actually stated that they simply couldn't be bothered with the 2 second mouse click required to block someone, but rather, others should have to post according to their standards.

Sadly, I could see where this was all heading for some time now. Fortunately there are many alternatives out there for when the time comes, but I really liked this site better than most of the others.

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Bullying I can understand but inappropriate comments is very subjective. Even profanity has its place in the right context

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Yes

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I think people should post at least 100 comments about film and television before they start giving advice on how the board is be run. I'm not saying your ideas or feelings aren't valid, but why should the administrator change everything based on someone who might not even end up participating regularly? I get that we all want a reasonable environment to post our thoughts but I keep seeing people who talk more about board policy rather than making any substantial contributions about shows.

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Thank you greatly, Sentient Meat. I won't deny the strength of your opinion in general, but since this board is very new, it is important that we sort out our policies and methods before more discussions get underway, otherwise we will be trapped with an online anarchy. You have a wonderful point, and I assure you that this general board is the only place where I have made this sort of post. I have been talking about movies on their respective boards to show that I value all areas of this forum.

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I think certain rules and civility in general are important, but while I see many people voicing their opinions about how a board should be, I see comparatively few posting about films. It's true that there are about five idiots who are currently spoiling the board, but the biggest problem is lack of regular participation and engagement with other posters. At this early stage I'd almost argue that some of the less offensive trolls are helping the board by bumping topics into trending.

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That is unfortunately true. There are a lot of posts about the boards in general and such, but there are a good amount of posts on films as well. We need some sort of balance. Trolls might bump old boards, but how useful that is varies.

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I really think that, instead of an IMDb-style ignore feature, we should have a Facebook-style block feature, where a person's account becomes invisible to whoever they're blocking. This would help discourage harassment. On IMDb, people could "ignore" someone, but that someone could still see their posts and follow them around the site. I think Facebook's method is better. This site is a replacement for IMDb but I don't think that means we need to copy everything IMDb did exactly. I don't think the "ignore" feature was very effective. We have an opportunity to improve on that with this new site.

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Thank you, Kawada_Kira. I am so grateful that you understand my statements.

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Sentient Meat, your last statement could be right, but the matter might sort itself out in time since we are all still trying to figure out how to start the forum.

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Bad idea. You see what's going on at imdb2 proboard? They are banning people for no reason and mods/admin are out of control, and less and less people are posting there. IMDb was great because it invited new users to take part in discussions.

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BenCaesar, I have no desire to ban people without cause. Since you have read my post, you should know that I only wish to screen out the individuals who are incapable of engaging in normal conduct. That is out of sensitivity for everyone, not just myself. The Internet Movie Database has been saturated with trouble because it has not had proper staff members to control harassment and wasteful posts. I would invite any movie or television fan who can talk tactfully and decently to join us.

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This is what happens

http://i.imgur.com/u62fr7K.jpg

S/He banned the user then claimed that user self deleted then added lies at the end. Doing it to anyone it hates, the d****** admin

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Despite your rather long-winded post, I think I see what you mean. We should have some baseline for what is acceptable and what isn't.

However, if someone has some mental issue, I think there could be some flexibility depending on what the problem is. At least a gentle warning to start off with.

On the subject of an ignore feature, I think it has its pros and cons. As someone else mentioned, a block option might be more fitting to avoid backlash. Some trolls do deserve to be banned, though.

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And a common language -- please, enough of the acronyms. Spend an extra 2 seconds so EVERYONE can understand.

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Yes, please! No text-talk if it can be avoided.

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Thank you LeiaOfLothlorien. It sounds as though you understand that I only want to initiate an agreement for members to enable us to clearly communicate and be comfortable with each other, and that it takes some time to thoroughly cover all corners in a case like this. As I explain in my first post, we have the right to remove unstable people who cause trouble, but that does not mean that everyone with a mental condition needs to be kept away from the forum.

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BenCaesar, your post is incredibly ironic because it showcases a need for everything that I emphasize while you complain about it. There is no reason for you to swear at me or any other member. Also, this thread features the first time that I have ever spoken to Jim, so your ignorant and slanderous yarn is not warranted or appreciated. Without exercising some form of judgment, we cannot reach a shared understanding of acceptability and cease instances of harassment like the one that you have just bestowed on me.

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My post was at other user not you

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If the site is successful moderation will be required. We've yet to get there though and everyone looking to moderate already doesn't understand that is what will stop the site being successful.

Let's get successful and then look at what problems emerge rather than preempt them and make them happen.

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I already knew their stupidity before IMDB went down and so never joined them.

These boards aren't on a free host with trolls running them.

Know your enemy and only pick fights you can win.

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I guess i hope for better moderation here, since jim can actually afford a domain lol

Competition is between TMDb and Moviechat currently.

https://www.imdbarchive.com/ needs a lot of work

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It's all good and I hope everyone gets their own community in time but this place seems like the best to me, so far. We just need to keep power hungry ponces out of the roles they are hoping to attain as they'll be the worst thing for any site to have.

I don't share my opinions with just anyone you know.

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" We just need to keep power hungry ponces out of the roles they are hoping to attain as they'll be the worst thing for any site to have."

Couldn't agree more. We are here for good discussions

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IMD2 was a cesspool almost from day 1

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i admit i wasted a month there. I helped the admin there in every way possible.

Then i was banned for unknown reasons.

Yeah it was never good.

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What swearing? Who did he swear at???

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TLDR

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I disagree . Ignore solves the problem . The abusers are then free to exercise their first amendment rights , as I am .

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BenCaesar, is your latest post addressing me? If so, then I don't understand. Whom else could you be talking to?

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Lennonforever, as an American, I believe in constitutional rights. However, it is important to remember that this forum is not the whole country. The idea of this community is to share things on personal levels, which means that we should operate in a way that we all approve of, and that way would undoubtedly include requiring all members to be respectful of each other. We should be given the chances to explain our views and politely sort out disagreements. The option for ignoring is precisely what it sounds like: something that perpetuates ignorance. Pretending that people do not exist will not stop them from insulting others, including the very members who ignore them. Aiding petulance is nothing to strive for, and the chief mistake that the Internet Movie Database and many forums have made.

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I appreciate your POV however , I disagree

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No TM1 i am not addressing you brah

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