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Greece to be the first country to have population collapse...


They seem to be dying 'suddenly' from blood clots, strokes, and heart diseases. Death to Birth ratio is 2:1, thats insane.

I wonder what is causing it?? 💉💉💉💉💉💉

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Same as in Japan

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Low birth rate.

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They have low birth rates, but that in of itself isn't what is causing the death rate to double...

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Show your proof that Greece's population is in decline because of the COVID-19 vaccine. We would all like to see it.

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If the COVID-19 vaccine is as dangerous as you morons claim then there would have been millions of people from around the world who died from it. But of course you have proof that the vaccine is dangerous so let's see it.

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Big pharma runs the media. How would we get that proof?

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If the COVID-19 vaccine caused millions to die someone would have noticed something wrong and said something. If you know anything about human behavior you know people cannot keep secrets. Your conspiracy theories are pure nonsense.

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Who would have said something? The media? Big Pharma? The government?

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People can keep secrets when that argument suits you. But right now you need people to not be able to keep secrets.

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nope, when are these times when it suits him ?

Theonly time people claim secrets are kept on this site come s from whackjob magas claiming any and all cover ups and conspiracies
-election fiddle
-vaccine kills you
-plandemic
-bill gates pop reduction plan
i forget the others - just look at tvfan's posts for the really 'out there' shit.


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-small vote victory in key swing states with fraudulent ballots discovered within the margin of error.

-17 million+ so far

-Pandemic Conference 11/19

-On record saying he wants to reduce population by 17%+ with vaccines.

These are absolutely things that are happening, and we don't care you have chosen to bury your head in the sand. You are free to do so.

We will continue the discussion around you.

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The Gates thing is True! oh golly! thats insane ? he wants to kill us all ?
Well I wont be lazy and ask you for your linx or whatever I'll go and do my own research ....
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10 mins later
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Phew , ok dont panic . You can stand down . cross that one off the list , apparently theres been a bit of confusion . (not for the first time on this issue alone )
I *thought* it was a bit odd a billionaire admitting plans for mass murder .
So dont worry , It all explained here:
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2MF1L8/
and here:
https://www.gatesnotes.com/about-bill-gates/a-conversation-with-bill-gates-population-growth
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/11/02/the-second-coming-of-bill-gates/


wow , you really got my heart fluttering then,
If that particular out there maga fantasy was true , who knows which others are!


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Holy shit, more fact checkers, especially since Gates is one of the major funders. LMAO

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Dont panic, you can just dimiss any facts remember ,
use your "MSM bullshit" superpower
or perhaps go with the "Those scientists have jobs , so they get paid , so any conclusions are bullshit"

Have you used your "common sense and deductive reasoning" that you're always touting to conclude that Gates actually is an evil genuis Bond villian with a not-even-secret plan to cull population?!

oh no!

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Fact Checkers are not facts, they are opinions provided by paid shills.

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oh you went with option B)
"they get paid , so any conclusions are bullshit"

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Fact checkers are only created to refute or obfuscate the truth.

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yeah , on that subject , i was gonna ask earlier but didnt want to draw attention from the point of my post .......


How do you perform your "common sense and deductive reasoning" when you have zero data to work with given that literally all sources of information are paid schils / fake news / msm bullshit ?

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By connecting the dots based on circumstantial evidence and using discernment to make a conclusion.

You cannot always rely on the information provided by perceived authoritative sources since we both know that evidence can be faked and/or manipulated to fit a particular narrative.

And it’s not just paid/incentivized shills but also the "weak" and the "zealots" that distort the facts to fit their agendas.

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>-small vote victory in key swing states with fraudulent ballots discovered within the margin of error.

Evidence for this claim please that the amount of fraudulent ballots discovered are more than the margin of Bidens victory within those states.

>-17 million+ so far

Evidence please.

>-Pandemic Conference 11/19

What about this conference?

>-On record saying he wants to reduce population by 17%+ with vaccines.

Who is on record saying this?

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"nope, when are these times when it suits him ?"

Hasn't he been claiming Trump had secret documents at the maralago that were so super duper secret that they had to raid his home to get them back? He says they can keep those documents secret, how is that possible especially with Trump involved?

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I like these stories.

First it's the world has too many people!
Then it's this country doesn't have enough people!

Pick a scare tactic and stick with it.

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It's almost...as if...both can be true at the same time. 🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨

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Of course you have proof about the COVID-19 vaccine is as dangerous as as you claim. Right?

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At least where I live, Astra Zeneca and J&J are no longer provided. Maybe you can tell us why.

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I don't care where live. Of course you have proof about the COVID-19 vaccine is as dangerous as as you claim. Right? What should I tell us?

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) from the UK still monitors potential side effects from this COVID-19 vaccine. The vast majority of side effects that have been reported for the AstraZeneca vaccine are mild and short-term. The same thing with the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

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Tell me you're a bot without telling me you're a bot.

I asked a question, you failed to answer it. But preach on Garth.

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It’s not a coincidence that the data on all vaccine deaths from 1988 to 2021 shows that the Covid vaccine deaths in one year surpassed the deaths of all other vaccines in 33 years.

The data speaks for itself.

Of course, the zombies will still blame it on Covid.

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What data is that? Would you be so kind to show your proof of this data? While you're at it post your evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. You claim this everyday so where's the proof?

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17 million and counting! The deniers will be in denial until all social services have broken down, the clean water stops coming out of the tap, the toilets stop flushing, the power goes out, etc... infrastructure is a very delicate system, and require a metric fuck ton of smart people to keep going.

There's a reason 3rd world countries have very little of this.

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Where's the data that 17 million people have died to the COVID vaccine?

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Go look for it. The web is free.

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So you have, as I expected, no evidence

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There is no doubt that these shots have caused a measurable amount of pathologies and deaths around the world. Statistics on excess mortality are fairly reliable in most developed countries and they show that since 2021 non-covid deaths are running anywhere from 5-20% above where they should be in country after country. Here in the States, we've had roughly 10% excess mortality in the wake of the shot roll out. At a personal level you may not notice this (although I have had a very noticeable rise in middle aged sudden deaths among my circle of acquaintances). Let's say you typically have 10 persons a year die with whom you have at least a casual connection. Maybe last year you had 11 die. You surely wouldn't think anything's different, even if that happened 3-4 years in a row. But the U.S. will experience approximately 3 million deaths a year. Now we're talking 300,000 extra deaths, roughly one million since the shot roll out. Expand those numbers to the rest of the world and suddenly we're talking staggering numbers of dead for which there is wink wink no explanation.

There has just been a paper released in Japan -- a country in which mRNA vaccine and booster uptake was fairly universal -- indicating that there has been a statistically significant rise in cancers since the rollout of the vaccine and finding evidence that the lipid nanoparticle vehicle contained within the shots is a potential cause. The paper states, "No significant excess mortality was observed during the first year of the pandemic (2020). However, some excess cancer mortalities were observed in 2021 after mass vaccination with the first and second vaccine doses, and significant excess mortalities were observed for all cancers and some specific types of cancer after mass vaccination with the third dose in 2022." Again, are you going to notice if one or two persons within your circle die of cancer? Probably not. But do they ever add up.

https://tinyurl.com/429tsnwh

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If you want to spend time digging through some very well-done statistical analysis of excess deaths, you could do a lot worse than The Ethical Skeptic. Here are his numbers for the United States as of a few weeks ago:

As of Week 12 of 2024, 4.08 years into the Covid-19 Pandemic and its aftermath, 1,617,863 excess deaths have been recorded to date. Now certainly, the SARS-CoV-2 virus was a deadly pathogen, itself 6.6 times more deadly than the typical annual mortality total for all influenza viruses combined. However, as the reader will infer from the material below, it was the panic-fueled, and in some cases malicious, actions of those few in power which have served to precipitate the larger part of total excess mortality during the pandemic, as well as post-pandemic, periods.

As of March 23rd 2024, there have been

691,978 Excess Non-Covid Natural Cause Deaths (primarily from the Covid Vaccine),
178,860 Excess Non-Natural Deaths (including 60,000 sudden cardiac deaths in casual drug users),
374,778 Excess Deaths from Malpractice and Denial of Treatment,1
372,247 Excess Deaths from the SARS-CoV-2 virus (6.6 x annual influenza-pneumonia)2
making for a grand total of 1,245,616 Manmade Excess Deaths of US Citizens, out of a Pandemic Total Excess Mortality of 1,617,863


https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/04/04/the-state-of-things-pandemic-week-50-2023/

But who's going to report this stuff to the masses? Big Pharma? You're joking, right? The media? They spent the entire pandemic in pants-wetting, fear porn mode, and pushed these shots hard. Do you think they'll offer up a mea culpa at this point? Furthermore, we've all seen the montages of "Brought to you by Pfizer!". The media is funded by the companies that produced these shots. Will the government seriously dig into this? Same problem as the media; they pushed these shots hard, and threatened people who were skeptical. They're also bought and paid for by Big Pharma.

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Even if the data here is true, 700,000+ deaths is not 17 million.

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17 million? He's talking about the United States only.

And even if that was worldwide, on what planet would we accept a "cure" that killed three quarters of a million people - so far? What on earth are you saying??

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I would like to know where this 17 million number is coming from in the first place.

>And even if that was worldwide, on what planet would we accept a "cure" that killed three quarters of a million people - so far? What on earth are you saying??

I mean I absolutely could see extreme cases where that would be accepted. Covid is not it, and I doubt the claim that 690k people in the USA died from the vaccine as fundamentally absurd on its face.

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By all means, refute his findings. We'll be here waiting.

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I could inundate you with tons of regional scientific studies, regional studies from the USA, EU, UK etc that dispute the many claims made there. Would you read them and argue against them?

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Then what's causing excess mortality, which is being reported worldwide, correlates proportionally with mRNA vaccine uptake on a national level, and began in 2021? If you want to rule out the vax then you must have an alternative explanation, no?

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7314a5.htm

https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512 (higher excess deaths for Republicans)

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-link-uk-excess-deaths-covid-19-vaccines-2024-02-06/

"Stuart McDonald, deputy chair of the Continuous Mortality Investigation, opens new tab (CMI), co-authored a commentary, opens new tab in the Lancet Regional Health Europe about the UK's excess deaths.
Citing a CMI report, opens new tab, it pointed out that excess deaths in England were highest in young (20-44) and middle-aged (45-64) adults.
“That shows you that it is the younger groups that are experiencing the highest level of excess deaths,” McDonald told Reuters in a phone interview. “So, it is the groups that are least vaccinated. The older groups, where vaccine uptake was higher and where boosters have been given more frequently, are experiencing less excess deaths in relative terms."

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You haven't answered the question. What's causing these deaths? They're not attributable to Covid.

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In the UK? Decaying health service (in part heavily impacted by the impacts of covid on delays to treatment). there's no evidence that people are dying due to the vaccine here.

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And in New Zealand, Australia, the States, Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, etc.? Is the NHS that amazing that it can be blamed for all these nations?

This is head-in-the-sand avoidance.

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I said the opposite, dude. The NHS is *not* that amazing at the moment, hence the problems with the excess deaths after the pandemic. Long waiting lists, delayed procedures. People aren't dying due to the vaccine, they're dying more due to problems with treatment exacerbated by the waning health service in the UK.

Are you referring to any specific data from those other countries?

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"I wonder what is causing it?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata

Lysistrata is an ancient Greek comedy by Aristophanes, originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BCE. It is a comic account of a woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War between Greek city states by denying all the men of the land any sex, which was the only thing they truly and deeply desired. Lysistrata persuades the women of the warring cities to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to negotiate peace—a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between the sexes.

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"Aristophanes is ridiculous!" Felix Unger

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Crap you must older than ME. Is this Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon or the TV show?

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The TV show. Felix and Oscar were contestants on "Password" and Felix thought one of the answers was Aristophanes, after which Oscar blew up at him during a commercial break. Later in the game Oscar got the word "ridiculous" and he smiled and gave Felix the clue "Aristophanes". What a great show.

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Is everyone in Greece having that problem, or just the native Greeks?

I'm asking because during the scamdemic, they were letting in thousands of illegal aliens over America's southern border and not forcing them to take the jab; and in a similar fashion, Greece is one of the first stopping points Syrian invaders--I mean migrants make on their journey to Europe from the middle-east. You think they do the same thing in places like Greece? Where they just let them in, don't take down any information on the invaders--I mean refugees, and don't force them to take the jab either?

I ask all this because if the native Greeks are dying off and the sand rats infesting their country aren't....well, I think you know what's going on here...

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The majority of Greek immigration comes from Albania (heavy majority here), Bulgaria, Romania, Russia and Georgia.

So this is just blatant racism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Greece#Immigration

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well, I think you know what's going on here...

Not really , just sounded like a bunch of xenophobic maga ranting to me.
Congrats on "scamdemic" though , not heard that one before.

The reason I'm confused is if the virus is scam , vacc kills you , Magas dont vac anyway ?
Why are you bothered about the immigrants ?

Madcap imagined maga conspiracy theories conflicting.
Bound to happen when you accumulate so many.

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I don't know why I'm responding to your scattershot ranting, but the "scam" wasn't that a novel virus circulated and that it was deadlier than seasonal illnesses (due to the lack of native immunity). The scam was that it required the world to grind to a stop, that children had to forego schooling, that everyone had to wear their underwear on their face, that we could print trillions of dollars in handouts, that you should become a third class citizen for refusing to inject yourself with an experimental and unproven genetic concoction, etc. And most of all, that none of these steps would have any long-term repercussions. Unthinking drones like yourself bought it all and never asked why.

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Yeah , all those things were necessary as advised by experts the world over . Its only pockets of right wingers , predominantly in the US , with zero expertise in virology who disagree , depite the millions of deaths worldwide weighing heavily as evidence

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Experts... My goodness.

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I guess You dont really need experts to know that the "plandemic" was not a plan by commies to topple Trump,
or that Bill Gates isnt planning mass murder

You just need to not be a zombified braindead cult-of-maga member ....

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