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Putin's Big Lie about Ukraine Joining NATO


No European country can join NATO as long as there is fighting within its borders. There has been ongoing fighting in Ukraine with separatists for years, therefore there was zero chance of the country joining NATO.

Another issue was corruption by Ukraine's oligarchs. Zelensky had moved against them which likely caused Putin to go to war.

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He's changed it now. Now he's worried about Ukraine getting nuclear weapons.

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But, Ukraine gave up all its nuclear weapons to Russia. Uh, oh! It's time for Putin to come up with another lie.

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Actually it started out with:
-Ethnic Russians to the East
-Part of Russia
-NATO member joining
-Neo-Nazis

and the latest being nukes.

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I kinda feel like I don't understand oligarchs like russia and ukraine at all, watched a skynews on reporting in ukraine and it looks normal but the tanks look outdated a bit, older

all I know is we can protest and be gay and stuff and hate anyone we want , but it won't get you rich

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Oligarchs take a nation's wealth for themselves and allow most people and society to become poorer. They're extremely selfish and greedy. I read that Putin only began to send troops a few days after his very close Ukrainian friend and fellow oligarch's bank accounts were frozen by Zelensky whose been trying to get rid of oligarch corruption.

FDR targeted and destroyed our oligarchs, aka:Gilded Age, in the 1930s with higher taxation and the New Deal which lead to higher wages and standard of living for most Americans until the 1980s when the oligarchs fought back with changes in taxation and legislation favoring themselves. This has lead to their becoming richer and most wages and quality of life going down for the rest of us.

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I OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BUT YOU USE LAME TERMS LIKE "OLIGARCH"

CAN WE GET OLIGARCH NAMES INVOLVED WITH "PUTIN"? NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THESE MYSTERIOUS OLIGARCHES

IS THAT CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?

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Oligarch only means rich guy with political influence. And there could be corruption. They tend to support each other.

Specific top Russian oligarchs being targeted with sanctions:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/are-russian-oligarchs-rcna17717

I posted this about Putin's Ukrainian friend, also an oligarch, a few days ago:
https://time.com/6144109/russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-viktor-medvedchuk/

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YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, THE OLIGARCHS ARE THE USA BILLIONAIRES AND THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO ARE REALLY WEALTHY

BUT I HAVE NO ANSWERS

BUT THATS JUST PUTINS PROPAGANDA FUCKING WITH MY HEAD

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I've been doing a little research in the last few weeks, and it seems to me that the consensus among NATO members on Ukraine is that NATO does NOT want Ukraine as a member, likely a bridge too far, as the saying goes. I don't see why that same sentiment didn't resonate with Estonia and Turkey...

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Correct. There's at least two countries that oppose it, which is more than enough to prevent Ukraine from entering.

Putin knows that of course. He can pull a fast one on a percentage of his people with all the propaganda, but the rest of the world knows he's all about trying to bring back the USSR.

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Putin is saying that NATO promised not to b expand into former Warsaw pact and former soviet nations, in exchange for allowing German reunification. But that is a lie as that promise was never agreed to. A US Ambassador floated the idea and President GHW Bush said NFW

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Everything out of Putin's mouth is a lie.

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you're just saving your ass, these people are planning on fighting for it

how corrupt are you keelai?

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Your comment isn't comprehensible. Too much ganja last night?

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well are you not connected to the US government or are you a lame duck like me?

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This guy doesn't make any sense. I think he might actually be the real Beavis.

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Stop calling everything a "big lie" you big 8-year-old.

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I won't stop speaking the truth because it makes you uncomfortable.

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I was annoyed by your repetitive and simplistic language.

Why do you need to use kindergarten terms? I thought that supposed "intelligent" people had prevailed in America again, because of Biden's "victory" (lol).

So why couldnt you say something like "Putin's deception" etc.



From your point of view, a stupid electorate is one that doesn't vote for the Dems - and you use simple words that stupid people can understand - hence, you don't really believe Biden won. LOL

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You're confused. Big Lie is a political term. Hitler used it often during his propaganda campaign. Trump and Putin are using it now.

Big Lie definition:
a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the facts, especially when used as a propaganda device by a politician or official body.

a false statement of outrageous magnitude employed as a propaganda measure in the belief that a lesser falsehood would not be credible. There is constant repetition and embellishment to lend credibility.

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Oh, I understand now. You're repeating a phrase Hitler invented.

That totally vindicates you!

Jesus CHRIST you're such a potent, big ball of autism you actually give off huge bursts of static electricity, and I can hear you making like whirring noises and shit.

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Obviously, you don't understand anything.

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