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So will they realize the reason for this flopping was the "Wokeness" or will they just say...


That the franchise is dead and nobody wants any more Terminator films?

I think there would be a large audience for a well-made Terminator movie without all the political messages. I would like to see a modern special effects account of the kind of warfare we saw in T1.

I'm just afraid Hollywood won't admit the Wokeness killed this one and just claim Terminator is a dead property and go find some other old franchise to work the "Wokeness" upon.

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They could make a great Termniator movie they wanted to. But it would embolden the element of society they're trying to extinguish. This crappy Terminator movie is exactly what they wanted. They're trying to break our spirits. It doesn't work. It just makes us angrier and hold on to the past even harder.

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I think the political agenda crap is only about 60% of the problem. The rest is because their egos got in the way and they just had to get so creative with characters and the story. They forgot about the original two movies which despite the convoluted time lines, is basically a simple story that would have been best told in three parts - T1, T2, and the future war.

By simple, I mean that it should have always just been about John sending Kyle back to the past, a couple of Terminators thrown into the mix, Judgement Day always happening, and John leading the resistance and defeating Skynet. Too bad Cameron didn't make T3 back in the 90's - I think it would have gone a completely direction at that time.

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I remember wishing Paul Verhoven would direct the T3 future war movie. Just coming off Robocop and Total Recall, he was the man for the job for sure. When was Starship Troopers.... 97. Yeah. it's like, imagine he made T3 in '97 instead of Starship Troopers. That woulda been something.

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I agree, the SJW crap is annoying but to say that's the main reason for the movie flopping is disingenuous. The fact they keep rehashing the plots of the first two movies and the sequels keep becoming increasingly convoluted and nonsensical was a big factor why T6 was DOA when it arrived in theaters. For me, whether it had been SJW or not, I was not going to see another movie written by David S. Goyer.

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They are already lying and laying the blame on Arnold.

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The director did his core audience a real favor, warning them 'This movie will scare the shit out of misogynists.'.

I was almost ready to buy a ticket before he gave me the heads-up - thanks Tim!

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Yep. My buddy's were offering me a free ticket and I passed. I'm not supporting these idiots.

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Stay strong Brutha!

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Don't be a misogynist. Be an anti misandrist.

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You're right, it's all about building bridges of love . . . for the children.

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I believe that children are the future.

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Swings and roundabouts I guess - I only went to see it, my first Terminator in a cinema, because of the cast.
And they were great but for me the movie slipped into mediocrity because of the overblown silliness of the CGI and an unoriginal story.

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