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This looks like a “tv movie”


Am I bugging or does it look like a tv show or TV movie ,idk what it is

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for what reason do you think this looks like a TV Show from literally 4 mins of footage spread over 2 trailers ?

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Idk I mean maybe it’s the camara they r using

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Dawg, you is buggin like a straight up cicada!

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That's actually pretty funny. Can I borrow that?

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Sure, why not. I haven't copyrighted it, so it's public domain.

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Well ya know, TV has evolved quite a bit in the last decade and a dozen of shows and tv/streaming movies today can be indistinguishable from big screen productions in terms of production values and storytelling. BUT! If TV movies these days are looking as large scale and essentially blockbuster-ish as Captain Marvel, then clearly I haven’t seen enough TV movies! Its direction looks very cinematic to me. Now heads up: longish response ahead...

... I cannot wait for this film to come out and prove the expert critics already declaring CM a mediocre film dead wrong. Or, hey, it’s possible I’ll be proven wrong and CM will indeed be the dud others are saying it will be. Seems Kevin Feige somehow lost his touch overnight and he is comfortable having the first MCU movie lead by a female (one that should make an impression for several reasons) be a wreck. Incredible Hulk? The Dark World? No, this shall be the first true disappointment for the MCU!

But alright, as spectacular as I found the 2nd trailer, putting out a flashier trailer could prob win over more people. I think the “problem” is they don’t want to give too much away with the trailers. Is a more explosive and revealing trailer that necessary tho? Both die-hard fans & casual fans/movie goers should feel confident that they’ll be getting their money’s worth with Marvel. CM gets great reviews and it’s game over! That being said, genuinely being let down by the trailers is no crime... but I can’t even with some of these negative nancies. E.g. Brie Larson, a supereme actress, continues to receive flak for supposedly looking stiff+unemotional as Carol. No smiles? (1950’s manbabies are crying to their mommies!) I do wonder if Brie is acting as, idk, she’s directed to? Her character is an amnesiac Kree-human hybrid who’ll discover who she is after all. So, she staying true to the script? No, that can’t be it! (Note: much of this whining comes from hate towards Brie who doesn’t share the same backwards views as her pissy critics.) As for those complaints that there are no standout action scenes when the trailers showed literally seconds of them... ha!

Whatever happens, let me say this: Marvel & Feige at this point have earned the benefit of the doubt. Doesn’t really matter how CM ends up doing to some anyway because those already expressing hate towards the film, from DC fanboys to irony-filled propagandists, will slam it for simply existing and for representing [insert cutesy terminologies the so-called tough right wing loves to use against people who offend THEM] ideas they get triggered by. In addition, it might also be met with equal criticism from those who typically call any well-received superhero film/film in general overrated. But you know what... to hell with these mofos!

So for now, it appears Captain Marvel is being underestimated. I rather like that. And to reiterate, I could be wrong about the film, but.... until it comes out, I have no reason to not feel optimistic. It is said to be a different kind of superhero origin film, so people truly have no clue what’s coming ;)

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The two trailers leave me feeling 'meh' about it. I'll prolly catch it on VOD. I stopped going to first run superhero movies several years ago unless I'm dragged out by friends.

It's the formulaic 'world ending CGI slugfest' that leaves me cold. Like so many other superhero movies now, it will probably take up the last 30% of the movie. Several good characters will be doing battle simultaneously with baddies and the fight scenes will alternate from one fight to the other. Lots of 'splosions' and electrical bolt-y things will be happening on screen. Characters will get punched and fly dozens or hundreds of feet backward only to recover almost immediately and get back into the fight. Over it all will be this loud orchestral music ever building up to a big crescendo.

Eeesh.

It's the same reason that I'm not gonna go see Aquaman. They really need to come up with a better 'formula' for these movies.

Over on the Daredevil boards we were having a conversation about how the Netflix Marvel series were a refreshing antidote to the tedium of the big screen movies.

No CGI... just well choreographed fights where people get hurt and fall down from exhaustion. No world ending crises... just simple small scale dramas where the heroes are flawed and the villains have deeper motivations than simply 'take over the world'.

I'd rather have a trilogy of Daredevil movies a la The Dark Knight where we really get into the psychology of the character than a Phase 2 or 3 of big budget special effects driven movies.

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The CGI complaints over these films... I just don’t get. At least not from those who aren’t against this supposedly inferior and cheap medium. These movies just wouldn’t work without CGI. How could they unless they shift completely in tone and instead focus on being purely character-driven films without delivering much wonder and trying to avoid this thing called escapism? For the record, I’m all for practical effects but I say use them when you can do a certain shot without CGI and vice versa. The only thing the MCU is guilty of is following the comics from a visual standpoint. There is no way you can adapt the source material featuring many of these characters by eschewing CGI and action as much as possible.

You may not respond well to it, although envisioning the bulk of the movies in this franchise (featuring cosmic beings, super enhanced individuals defying the laws of physics, space ships, different worlds, technology beyond our wildest dreams, etc) without numerous effects is difficult. For what it’s worth, the effects in the majority of the Marvel films have been outstanding — as is the CGI-less choreography. Moreover, a big reason it was pretty much impossible to make proper comic films for decades was due to the technology not being there. With that in mind, I can safely assume the fact that these movies, no matter how well-crafted they can be, are special effects-laden is enough reason for you to deem them lesser than properties like Daredevil and Nolan’s The Dark Knight trilogy. It’s easy to feel that way, but ... ignorant. A couple of films in this universe may be safe but well-shot entertainment. Overall though, if you think this franchise has only - or mostly - been successful (from a financial and story standpoint) thanks to the effects and entertainment value... well man, I have to say you’re wrong.

One thing most fans and critics will agree on, is Marvel has done a wonderful job not just world building but character developing. Audiences haven’t been supporting this franchise all these years because the MCU is simply one big budget extravaganza that is fun a la Transformers. I argue the main reason is the filmmakers have made us care for these characters (and not in a sappy and meaningless way). Well-written characters, at that. If there is a Dark Knight, a Daredevil, or a Logan out there, then cool. But if all these movies decided to follow the same pattern as the aforementioned properties, then they might as well drop the superhero tag altogether. Point is, these are true comic book films. A lot of them would not work the way you think they should. What’s more, each new seemingly worthless phase in this cinematic universe has felt like it COUNTS. And yeah, I would consider more than a few impressive from a technical point of view, especially all the entries directed by the Russo Brothers.

So you can argue against all this, it’s fine. However I know I speak for many when I say we’ve seen some amazing characters arcs in the franchise with characters such as Bucky Barnes (I find his arc in the Winter Soldier as heart-wrenching as, if not more, than anything in The Dark Knight), Thor, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, T’Challa, Doctor Strange, and so on and so forth. Delivering thrills, awe-inspiring and *appropriate* visuals effects that SERVE the story, focusing on character development... that’s what I’ve gotten from the majority of these movies. Formulaic? If that means Marvel has a formula that has worked all these years, then sure. Lacking originality and being the same ol’ same ol’? For you and others. But the way I see it, this franchise has been evolving since the beginning and it is anything but soulless.

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Good reply. I've nothing against CGI when it's used subtly in support of a story and doesn't call attention to itself. For example, de-aging Michael Douglas in Antman, Robert Downey in IM3. The airport in the final battle in Civil War was apparently almost pure CGI. And, yes, I agree you need CGI to convincingly portray some of the superpowers used by these characters.

However, I think there's a mindset in Hollywood: "Hey, we need an epic third act, so we're gonna throw in this YUGE final battle and we're gonna CGI the hell out of it." I think the fact that CGI can render these eye-popping visuals is driving the scripts rather than vice versa.
And too much CGI on the screens starts to call attention to itself, ironically making the scene LESS engaging. Who can forget the awful Phantom Menace when Lucas literally filled every square inch of screen space with some CGI creature or space ship -- even in the background -- just because he could? Nary a CGI effect in the original movie and that one stood head and shoulders above the 2nd trilogy. Why? It always comes down to an interesting story and characters. Less is more.

We're reaching the point where there is a mind-numbing sameness to all these final battles that take up so much screen time.

As for the necessity of these big battles, they aren't required for a good story. I read the original comics as a kid. Sure you had these cosmic battles when it came to some of the more exotic characters, but the majority of them were scaled down tales of the sort you saw in The Dark Knight and Daredevil and just as entertaining.

That's really where I'm coming from. CGI is more and more being used to pad out or cover over a mediocre story.

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I agree. I don't like it being used to create main characters except in rare instances like Groot.

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Very interesting, thanks for the link.

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No problem :)

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