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i gave up believing in movies years ago after all the remakes


this movie was literally made 16 years ago. how in the world can you remake a movie 16 years later???? this is beyond retarded. also when you do this you are saying the original is not good enough, otherwise why are you remaking the movie? we don't need a remake of a movie made in the '00s. this is so irritating and wrong. they should have to wait at least 25 years to remake a movie.

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Why is a remake trashing on previous films? I always find it kinda funny how outraged people get over remakes. Shakespeare's work has been remade a million times. It's just a retelling of the story. Heck most of music is composed of samples from other peoples work.

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Well the original movies weren't quite true to the comics. So they made this. And it's not quite true to the comics either. You may remember this song from Superman and Batman and Spider-Man. This got that right. Those got this right. None of it is exactly right. There is no true version. All I know is... They made one HELL of a Dredd movie and walked away from it. And National Treasure 3 still ain't happening.

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Dredds only problem was the marketing. It should have been a success.

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Scarface, The Thing, Cape Fear, The Departed, The Fly...all remakes and all really good. Like any movie, it needs to be well executed.

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If you call it a reboot rather than remake then it makes a lot more sense.

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i hate that term reboot and reimagining because i really think it just gives people license and proprietary to make a remake to a movie on another name. then they don't have to get criticized for making yet another remake movie by putting it under a different heading.

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THE FIRST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY,HOLLYWOOD REMADE AND SEQUELIZED FILMS JUST AS COMMONLY AND FREQUENTLY AS NOW...DIFFERENCE,AFTER THE THEATER THESE FILMS GO TO HOME MEDIA AND THE INTERNET LIGHTS UP WITH CRITIQUE....OTHERWISE....SAME AS IT EVER WAS.

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Kowalski is quite correct. Movies have been remade since the first films began. Remakes are not new, or even middle-aged. They are quite old as films go.

I might also note that this is a different story than the two previous live-action films. (and it has quite a few differences than those two as well. Enough that it could be considered a reboot.) But by your logic any sequel is a remake.

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you're absurdly wrong. i don't remember the birds 2 starring spencer tracy in the '50s.

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A Birds 2 would be a sequel not a remake. And even if it was, you think that because Birds didn't have a remake there have not been many others? Would you like a list? Since such a list would be entirely too long to enter here, here are two links to Wikipedia. (Yes, I know it is not the most accurate source, but it is the quickest to find:(and I apologize, I cannot remember how to make these links.)

Films A-M: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes_(A%E2%80%93M)

Films N-Z: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes_(N%E2%80%93Z)

The list is enormous. Some quick mentions are:

Ten Commandments
Pride and Prejudice
King Kong
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
The Wizard of Oz (in 1925, 1939, 1950, 1975, 1976, 1978, and 2005)

Hollywood has always remade films since the first films were made. That is film history.

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you're wrong. maybe 10% of what we have now were remakes or sequels. in the '60s and before. that's why movies were so good back then originality that's why we go back to the classics of the golden age of hollywood.

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are you effing kidding me? what did they do change the titles of the remakes and the sequels in the '50s and the '60s? i mean i don't remember psycho 2 in the '60s starring gregory peck. what you said is absurdly inaccurate.

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See my other comment. You simply are in denial. Check any book on the history of films.

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you don't know about the golden age of hollywood.

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STFU...😂😂😂

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I assume your comment is that they didn't remake movies in the Golden Age of Hollywood. They did, you just are ignoring it. I gave you examples above. Generally it is defined as 1915 to 1963.

Just examples:

The Wizard of Oz was made three times in that period.
The Ten Commandments was made twice.
The Maltese Falcon was made three times. (The version with Humphrey Bogart was the third)
Philidelphia Story and High Society (same story with different titles)
Little Shop on the Corner/Good Old Summertime (again, same story with different titles)
Five Came Back/Back from Eternity (again, different titles for the same story)
The Letter was made twice (the second version with Bette Davis)
Little Women made at least twice
Prisoner of Zenda
The Front Page/His Girl Friday

TCM is currently doing an entire month of movie remakes: A month's worth.

These are only a few examples. There are scores more. Your refusal to acknowledge this is akin to insisting the sun rises in the west regardless of all evidence to the contrary. (And if you pull the earth rotates so the sun doesn't rise and set you are setting yourself up as a five year old. )

Everyone makes mistakes. It doesn't shame you to admit them. Do so.

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sorry but you're wrong. hollywood was known for their original movies in the golden age that's why people love this era of films the most, more than any other. you don't even have to have a great knowledge of movies to know that there weren't that many remakes or sequels in the golden age of cinema which was the '40s and '50s. plus when there were remakes in movies in this era they were remakes of plays which is acceptable and better than remakes of movies because they are of the same format.

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DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER.BEATING THAT DEAD HORSE? WHAT YOU SPEAK IS WRONG.YOU REALLY SHOULD READ A BIT BEFORE RIOTING,CHIEF.

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it is no use arguing with someone who is deliberately ignoring history. This will be my last comment on this.

YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

I know you don't want to be. History proves you are incorrect. Hundreds of movies were remade throughout the Golden Age. All the lists I supplied you prove that.

I try to be polite to everyone. I never denigrate their artistic perceptions of works. Everyone has different tastes.

I, and others, have given you examples. I supplied you with links to lists. If you cannot acknowledge what is in plane sight I cannot speak with you.

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no, you're wrong. they never made remakes with any regularity or sequels in the '50s '60s or '70s. no one ever said the common thing said nowadays, "i loved the original but the sequel sucked," because back in the '50s and before they hardly ever made sequels and remakes. no one ever said, "how did you like the sequel to the seven year itch because it's never existed.

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1930 - The Maltese Falcon is published
1931 - The Maltese Falcon is made into a film
1941 - The Maltese Falcon is remade as a film we all know and love with Humphrey Bogart

No remakes precludes certain forms of greatness. I know it's a pain when a movie is wonderful and they remake it and all anybody wants to do is talk about the new one or compare them, but great art is made from all sorts of sources.

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EXCELLENT COMMENT AND POINT.

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