The thing about San junipero

From what I understood, Kelly wasn't convinced there was an afterlife, which is why she chose the certainty of being with Yorkie in a simulated world over the uncertainty of being with her husband and daughter in heaven.

The idea of there being two copies of her consciousness - one in heaven and one in San Junipero - is interesting and raises the existential questions of the nature of the soul, consciousness and identity. Which copy is the original one? The logical answer would be the one in heaven, as that reality supersedes the man-made San Junipero. But her choice was to stay in San Junipero, so in a sense the version of her in heaven wouldn't have gotten the afterlife she chose. She still loved her husband and daughter and would have been delighted to be with them again, but she might equally feel guilty that she chose San Junipero and Yorkie above them.

It's a very interesting and unique dilemma with no clear answer. I guess it all depends on the person's religious conviction of an afterlife. The stronger the person's faith, the more likely they would be to choose death over San Junipero.

Expanding the religious aspect, it's possible that God wouldn't let somebody who chose to live in San Junipero after death also go to heaven, as it could be seen as rejecting God.

By choosing San junipero she is choosing man/technology over god/faith that her husband chose. Most religions find this choice to be sacrilegious so choosing San Junipero would be a form of hell in comparison to the supernatural heaven from a religious perspective. For example the Bible talks about a time coming where people would wish to die but wouldn't be able to San Junipero could be an example of this. So that's why people are mad it shows Kelly's lack of faith in her husband/ a god. We can only experience one conscience at a time people might be able to feel others or their primary one might go to sleep you still only experience one so the conscience wouldn't split.

I wasn't upset as in i thought she made the wrong choice. I just felt like her decision to stay in San Junipero was kind of flimsy when leveraged against how adamant she was about maintaining her plan to (possibly) reunite with her child and husband. I know love caters to no plan but if it was just a matter of getting over her husband i could understand it but the idea that she'd give up on reuniting with her own child who died at a young age just feels kind of implausible to me given how long she had been holding on to it.

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there being 2 consciousness is indeed important problem. even more important than what San junipero portrayed. problem is that biological consciousness always dies, there is no way for it to survive. only copy stays in simulation. so even if we ever have such technology i dont see how we can use it

The show never said there were two versions of her. The process was a transfering her mind into the virtual world, not a duplication of her. You and others assuming she was duplicated are interrupting it wrong - the show never said or implied that.

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So here's the thing:

The consciousness in San Junipero is only a simulation of one's consciousness, a copy. For argument's sake, let's assume that an actual afterlife exists (Heaven). If so, and one chooses San Junipero, then there are two instances of one's consciousness: the "real" consciousness in Heaven, the simulated one in San Junipero. But here's the thing...

Neither of these two consciousnesses would be aware of the other or what the other is up to. So the consciousness in San Junipero would have no idea that it isn't the "real" consciousness, and while the "real" consciousness in Heaven might remember that they had chosen San Junipero and know that a "copy" of themself was now living in San Junipero in the cloud, the real consciousness wouldn't be aware of what the copy was doing.

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I was not upset about that. She choose the bird in the hand rather than going for the two in the bush. I'm loving watching Black Mirror, and this is a fascinating episode. I give it a 9/10.

Your English is excellent, and you're right about my Portuguese. About all I know is ola! As a matter of fact the only minor error I could see was that you used the word choosed instead of chose. Other than that, it's perfect.

BTW I enjoyed visiting Peru and Brazil last year. Do you by any chance live in Brazil?


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Because it may bring up memories of their mother or grandmother remarrying after a long former marriage. My grandmother was married to her husband for 50 years (from age 23) until he dropped dead of a massive heart attack in 2003.

Two years later she moved into a retirement community and remarried a Jewish man. She even converted and she was buried beside him in a Jewish cemetery when she passed in 2014 as he passed in 2012. Instead of being buried beside her husband, my grandfather and my Mother's father. It was a big ''sting'' for us all. And watching this black mirror episode also brought a little twinge on.