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Unreasonable Searches and Seizures


Batman often breaks into the villains' lairs without a search warrant. This is a gross violation of civil rights

Even if the villains are in their lairs planning nefarious deeds, it isn't right for this fascist to just sneak in without a warrant. Laws exist for reasons

Does Batman believe in the Bill of Rights? Does he believe in DUE PROCESS?!

Imagine if you are Mr. Freeze. You believe in freezing things in order to cure your comatose wife. You like to brainstorm, to spitball ideas with your goons about possible schemes. These are IDEAS. "Thought crimes". You aren't doing anything illegal, just hypothesizing freezing things, not actually freezing things

Then comes in this billionaire bitch, who has no warrant, no jurisdiction, no right to break into the warehouse that you leased out, and he destroys your property, beats you into a pulp, beats your employees into a pulp (your employees now have the right to sue YOU for their medical costs), etc.

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Oh my god. YOU'RE RIGHT ! I think that's the first time a movie isn't a 100% depiction of reality !! So.. you're the fun one at parties. Huh?

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Hi 😊 Thank you for responding to thread

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At your service ! All the pleasure was mine.

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I mean, this was literally a primary plot point of The Dark Knight.

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Not primary enough 🤔

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Err. Batman is not working on behalf of the State; however, the local government benefits on behalf of Batman's actions... for the most part.

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He's making a mockery of the U.S. Constitution

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I have to agree. Batman, in his own right, is a vigilantly -- a person born of means and privilege, but not of legal authority to police the streets.

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Batman is equivalent to ANTIFA, all dressed clad in black. Justice system is pro-crime hence why if he is ever arrested he's bailed out fast by secret AG Gordon.

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No, ANTIFA are heroes (they fight fascists). Batman's just a bully

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Not clear on the concept of comic book super heroes, are you?

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The Constitution does not have a clause where it says that superheroes are exempt

If Batman wants to break into a lair he should get a warrant first

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Millsey, is that you with a secret identity?

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The whole point of vigilante justice is that they operate outside the parameters of the law. In one of the old comics a flashback shows Bruce Wayne in a law class where there's a caselaw discussion with an unfair outcome and Bruce asks of the professor "Is that justice" and his professor responds "No Mr. Wayne, that's the law".

Rather than whether or not Batman believes in due process a better question would be should any evidence the police receive due to the Batman's illegal tactics be admissible in a court of law? In The Dark Knight it's said that the police department's official position is to arrest the vigilante known as Batman. But with a giant bat signal on the roof of police headquarters it would be fair to argue that he is working as a deputy of the police department and should be held to the same restrictions. However Gotham is usually portrayed as a different type of place in need of a different type of justice where all the players know they live in a world where the normal rules don't apply. In the end trying to make real world sense of a comic book movie is very much a futile effort.

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