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Sniper's nest in the Lady Liberty's torch?


That image is perhaps the most stupid image of war I've ever seen.

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Tactically useless but visually memorable. Plus, I don't think people are permitted to even enter the torch anymore, are they?

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Given the scenario in this film, I feel like real-world legality is not a primary opponent of its verisimilitude.

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A sagacious answer which lacks any pusillanimous obfuscation.

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Poppycock, I say.

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Well opined.

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I don't think so. Not sure if they ever were because the whole statue is a metal from covered with copper cladding. The sandbags around outside of the torch would do nothing to protect from someone shooting up from the ground. It's just beyond stupid.

It's like the US military is some respects. For beating up on small powers - very intimidating, but we sank so many trillions of dollars into air-craft carriers and the planes on them, and the destroyers and escorts around them that we cannot even get close to the enemy in the Middle East.

Check this out, it's terrifying:
Military contract price gouging: Defense contractors overcharge Pentagon | 60 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPvpqAaJjVU

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Plus, I don't think people are permitted to even enter the torch anymore, are they?

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At the cilmax of Alfred Hitchcock's Saboteur, made in 1942 as America was entering WWII, hero Robert Cummings chases Nazi villain Norman Lloyd up into that torch and a cliffhanger ensues with the villain literally "hanging by a thread" from the torch.

I wonder if one could really climb to the torch even back THEN...or if they could and it was closed later.

My guess is that "regular people tourists" WERE NOT EVER ALLOWED to climb up into and onto the torch. As Saboteur postulated, its pretty cramped and dangerous up there, exposed to a high drop.

Indeed, the saboteur in Saboteur DOES fall to his death in a great Hitchcock scene...

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I was going to say, "Wait, I think that film was set in England, not New York," but then I realized I was thinking of Hitchcock's other film, "Sabotage".

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It's a visual allegory.

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They shoot boats innit.

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Maybe they’re using the Staten Island ferry for target practice?

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It might be a perspicacious overwatch location if Statue of Liberty Museum is now bunker for VIPs!

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"perspicacious" is an adjective that is used to describe people who hae insight and understanding of a thing, not a location.

The thing is that the structure of the arm and the torch offers no cover and would be easy to fire on. You would not even have hit the torch itself, just weaken the frame and the whole thing would fall ... I forget how far, I'm thinking about 300 feet, a football field's length to a painful death.

We all know Hollywood is not real, but that is just stupid.

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