Weak


Cartoon over-privileged Wall Street kid. Checking all the "woke" boxes in the first 10 minutes. Deb in every. frikkin. scene - and I *liked* Jennifer Carpenter's character in the original. Harry was only introduced occasionally in the original series. Lotsa fan- and PC-service. Almost nothing that made Dexter great from the outset.

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hate to disappoint middle America, but I live in a small conservative town in the northeast and yes there are gay people, even those who own a local business, and minorities. not sure if a Native American police chief would be strange in upstate New York. However, It would have been really interesting if they did have Harrison transition like you suggested below. The writers may be kicking themselves in the ass for not thinking of that if they read your post.

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Of course there are gay people everywhere but half the cast ticking some aggrieved, under-represented box? That's not under-representation. Half the population in America, never mind small towns anywhere, is not BIPOC, gay, or an amputee.

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I wouldn't call the episode weak, but it's not strong either. I wasn't expecting much, due to the current state of affairs in the entertainment industry, so I didn't really dislike it.

Having said that, I agree that it feels like they were ticking boxes and just for the sake of it. All the woke characters are unidimensional cliches that have no other defining characteristic other than their main one. So far they are lacking depth and instead of being actual rounded characters they just have a single trait: look at me I'm gay; look at me I'm an activist; look at me I'm an amputee who can dance. People that are supposedly represented should be offended by those characters. And yes, the Wall Street ahole is way too cartoonish. Even for Dexter standards of cartoonish bad guys.

It's still too early to say, but chances are the whole miniseries will be meh, good on nostalgia factor, but ultimately empty. Probably they'll try with a second one, but then they'll give up.

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+1 But you're pissin' into the wind.
The liberal sharks that patrol this board are going to point out that all these demographics DO exist and that somehow you're a racist/homophobe/out of touch guy for noticing.
(finger wag) HOW DARE YOU SIR!

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The liberal sharks that patrol this board are going to point out that all these demographics DO exist and that somehow you're a racist/homophobe/out of touch guy for noticing.


Yup. And what's fascinating is that none of them will quote the demographics to justify their position.

For instance, gays/lesbians only make up 1.6% of the population, and majority of them reside in California (mostly L.A., San Diego and San Francisco), New York City, Portland, Washington D.C., and Miami:
https://archive.is/AtuDc

How many amputees are in America? They literally make up less than 0.7% of the population in America:
https://www.amputee-coalition.org/limb-loss-resource-center/resources-filtered/resources-by-topic/limb-loss-statistics/limb-loss-statistics/

So you're half as likely to encounter an amputee as you would a gay person, and you're only as likely to encounter a gay person on average about 1 in 100 times for every person you meet in real life.

Having a Native American police chief, a black butcher, a gay store owner, and a legless wench all in the same tiny, rural, upstate New York town not only defies statistical logic, but basic demographic spread as well. This is why normal people -- even when they don't know what the actual stats are -- still know that this kind of "diversity" is little more than a propaganda push because it doesn't represent nor gel with real life.

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I actually like this season quite a bit - until the last episode (and that's due to writers fucking things up - not wokeness).
Dexter dialogue with JC were a cringe, agreed. While his dialogue with his dad in the original series were mostly focused on the code and problem solving, JC dialogues were all about feelings - but they were an easy skip, so no harm done - if you have a skip button.

The wokeness was there, but again, not too much for me to declare this as being overly woke series - I'd even say it's barely noticable, if you don't start overanalyzing it like feminists did with old films. Wokeness is spreading in real life as well, so it shouldn't be surprising to see a bit of it in tv series as well. It's when it becomes extreme in films/TV series that I start having a real issue with it - like in reboots/sequels where the lead suddenly becomes a side character and wokeness becomes the lead; or there are 5 lgbtq characters out of 10.

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Yeah, honestly on balance, I think I have to retract my original comment. It's just the first ep slapped you so hard in the face with it - and that's not even something I normally even notice (Star Trek Discovery being a notable exception to that rule). But I do think my thread title applies to the final episode. Very reminiscent of Game of Thrones... "oh crap, we only have one episode to wrap this all up, let's just make a bunch of stuff up and to hell with whether it makes sense or is consistent with years of character development."

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