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Definitely one of Marvel's worst...

posted 2 years ago by intamin (24)
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Is it because Sony ruined it? They seem to be the only thing that changed between this one to the last two.

This is right up there with Black Panther and Shang-Chi (I haven't seen Black Widow but I'm sure it's bad, too).

No story, no emotional impact, terrible jokes, insanely fast "joke" pacing. Why do they want to save villains all of a sudden? It makes no sense. Why would you fight at the statue of liberty? So you can destroy that, too? These villains all have terrible tortured lives and are super smart but can't figure out how to cure themselves? But Mr. Child Spiderman can use some stowed away Stark tech to cure literally any super-villain of their condition? This is all so stupid...

It was all just fan service, too, and the spideys' lines were just crap. Every joke fell flat. Practically no one was laughing in my theater. The only reason it has a high score is because the other crappy spider-men show up as well and all trade notes on how terrible their lives are.

MJ is now a sappy bawly child. Gone is her edgy, witty character (except for all of maybe 2 lines in this film). Same with Ned, he's completely neutered. It was all just empty. It felt like a DC film in many ways. All the funny and impactful characters that made the past two Spideys great are sidelined for a bunch of X-Men 3 supervillains that have no backstory and no emotional impact.

Anyway, rant over.

[–] Truthtalker (1871) 2 years ago

wow, you're an idiot

[–] FilmBuff (6696) 2 years ago

On one hand, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but his opinion is definitely idiotic.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 2 years ago

Most of what he said is true. You can't debate him, so you go the ad hominem attack route. Whose the idiot?

[–] FilmBuff (6696) 2 years ago

*who's

[–] Goliard (1413) 2 years ago

LMAO

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/026/511/morans3.jpg

[–] Kowalski (58753) 2 years ago

DID YOU EVER FIND OUT WHOSE THE IDIOT?

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

*who's

[–] Kowalski (58753) 2 years ago

READING COMPREHENSION ISN'T YOUR STRONG SUIT IS IT?

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Penis envy is getting the better of you, Kowalski.

[–] Kowalski (58753) 2 years ago

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[–] Kowalski (58753) 2 years ago

hello[–] kuatorises (5536) 7 days ago
Most of what he said is true. You can't debate him, so you go the ad hominem attack route. Whose the idiot?

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[–] FilmBuff (4144) 7 days ago
*who's

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[–] Goliard (1030) 7 days ago
LMAO

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[–] Kowalski (22709) 2 days ago
DID YOU EVER FIND OUT WHOSE THE IDIOT?

[–] kuatorises (7467) 2 years ago

I don't think it's one of the worst - I thought it was ok - but I agree with a lot of what you said. MJ, Ned, and Flash are all just awful. Their interactions are awkward and the opposite of funny. MJ and Flash are just flat out embarrassing compared to their origins. Nothing like them at all. Ned isn't either, but Ned was just turned into someone else. He's Miles' friend Ganke but with Hob Hoblin's real name. Spot on comment about that fast joke crap. It's obnoxious modern teen humor.

I enjoyed Maguire, Garfield, and Dafoe. The two big fights were awesome.

I didn't care for the whole "cure the villains" thing. I want my villains to be villains.

[–] intamin (24) 2 years ago

Thanks for an intelligent response. Regarding the action, I think I was soured from such disappointment that it just felt pointless to me by then. Ah well.