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Were men really like this towards women back in the day?


I'll admit I have had some sexist thoughts and enjoy the fact that she makes me food and cleans up for us but I try and help here and there and am grateful she does it. I dont expect it either but dont discourage the gender role either. Also how they treat them like property at times and how they command them what to do from time to time and how they believe they are unequal. Just a different time I suppose but is a lot of this fictionalized?

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I couldn't watch this show when it initially aired because the rampent sexism and misogynistic BS was so realistic. I am glad I was eventually able to set this aside and enjoy the show for the supurb acting and stunning depiction of the time -good, bad, and ugly!

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The workplace was like this into the early 80s I think. Then HR departments came along and ruined all the fun :) Kidding. But yeah, from what I've read and asked people from that generation, this is accurate.

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Now its gone too much the other way, feminazis attack men simply for being men.
Eat the Neocons.

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Now its gone too much the other way, feminazis attack men simply for being men.
Eat the Neocons.


Too much the other way in my opinion. In our quest to be treated the same as men we are now trying to take the place of men. More children growing up in fatherless homes and society is now paying the price for that.

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Wow linop get back on your meds, you psycho.

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It's not exactly untrue.

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Just saw an interview with the woman who was assaulted by Trump on an airplane in 1978. It really struck home with me. Back then, you just didn't report such behavior. The chances of anything happening was nil. She emphasized how much this had affected her. You just extracated yourself and went on with your life, trying to make a living.

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So traumatized that she waited 38 years and decides to come out with it a couple weeks before the election? Yeah, no hidden motives there at all. Lets suppose it's true for a minute. Why didn't she come out with it when Trumps campaign started a year ago?

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She spoke up because, after bragging about this behavior, he was asked if he had ever done something like this and he said no. It took a lot of courage to speak up, even now.

maggimae83

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Yes.

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I thought Mad Men was a bit more nuanced that this characterization. The wives get pissed, people divorce. A lot of the women didn't work, so they were supposed to fill a role. I just don't recall seeing very many extremely one-sided relationships on the show. Almost feels like it's implied that life was unequal back then, but MM isn't proof of it, imo.

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When this show was on I worked for an all male owned and run advertising agency as their creative director, the only other females in the company were secretaries and assistants. The guys idolized the show and wanted to run their own company the same way. They were also all part of the Maharishi movement where men were spiritually superior to women. I got my position by making them money off of my good ideas but I never would have lasted if I didn’t behave submissively to them. Any sign of overconfidence or what could be perceived as dominance and there was an immediate reaction of ‘know your place’ and letting me know how lucky I was to have my position. It was very stressful. I constantly felt the pressure that I needed to work harder than everyone else just to be accepted in the boys club which is actually what they called themselves. I sat through countless meeting where telling crude jokes about women was the norm and I was expected to wear skirts and leave my hair down and long even though that made me a target for sexual harassment that I was meant to take as compliments, which, I did, because it was easier that way.

There were some benefits to that old school mentality, you become a commodity, women are valuable and very influential to men, especially one that is sweet and strokes their ego. If you play the game well, people love you and you become ‘invaluable’ to the business.

Just a perspective on what it’s like for one woman in big city America.

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😳 Wow. Hard to believe this kind of crap was still going on as recently as when MM was airing. It sucks you went through that and you have my condolences. Glad you got out of it.

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I don’t understand why someone would be willing to stay in a job like that. Whenever I feel like I have been treated disrespectfully by a supervisor I just resign. It’s not worth the hassle. I would rather just look for another job even if it requires taking a temporary financial hit.

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The higher up on the chain you are, the less jobs that are available. I loved the work itself, there just aren’t many openings for a creative director out there. Besides that, ALL jobs have their draw backs and working with a majority of women brings it’s own problems.

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Last night there was a PBS documentary on the Apollo space program, and one of the interviewees was a woman who'd been the first woman to work at Mission Control at NASA's Houston space center, which was a big deal at the time.

She talked a lot about the boy's club atmosphere and uncongenial work environment... and summed up her experience by saying "It was a lot like 'Mad Men', that show got it right".

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Having that experience, I’ve tried to put a lot of things into perspective and Be more conscious of the things that “I” say or do that could be sexist because it can go the other way too. I imagine that if I was the only male in a situation like mine that there would be things that women do unconsciously that would make a man uncomfortable and feel objectified as well. The balance of power has been on the male side for so long that I don’t think women know or appreciate what it’s like to have every negative or joking thing they say about men scrutinized. I’ve always appreciated guys putting in an effort to be considerate of what they say about women.

I just felt like I should add that because it was important to my emotional growth afterwards. We are a complicated bunch, we humans!

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