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Downey and Monaghan are supposed to be the same age?


They needed to get either the casting people or the special effects geeks to work on that one.

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I could buy it. Granted Downey, who’s defied his age for years, does look over 30 in this film while the fresh faced Monaghan looks fairly younger (which she is). But idk, I take it one of them took better care of themselves than the other. :) Age aside, they were both well-casted.

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Puh-lease! Downey looked at least 45 in good lighting, which is odd because he was actually forty.

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Well... EXCUSE me! “Over 30” can mean anything, including 60. 😏

That said, if RDJ in KKBB didn’t look like he was somewhere in his 30’s (37-8-9-ish), then he be lookin’ his real age in it.


Downey looked at least 45 in good lighting, which is odd because he was actually forty


Let’s say I’m being extremely generous to him and that he actually looked as old as you say, perhaps the odd reason he looked so much older was because he was still recovering from drugs and alcohol after years of abuse. Today he barely looks 45+, which is impressive considering what he went through in his younger years.

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Most actors look younger than their years, because they spend a hell of a lot of money on clinging to their youth. I know that Downey had neither the opportunity nor the motivation to do that for some years, so for a while he either looked his age, or a bit older.

IMHO it's actually benefitted him in the long run, he looks like a real person instead of an oversurgeried monster like so many actors of his age. He doesn't look younger than his years now, in the last "Avengers" film he did look like a man in his fifties... just a really handsome and photogenic man in his fifties.

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It's a movie

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Movies have to be... convincing. Believable. Plausible.

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Yet this movie works.

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Not as well as it could have, with appropriate casting.

But that would have involved casting a leading actress the same age as the leading actor, and Hollywood seems to have a rule against that.

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No. RDJ and Monaghan were magic together. Anyone else would have sucked.

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How old were they?
(That would be my knee-jerk reaction.)

But actually I'm more curious whether you saw Less than Zero and A Scanner Darkly, and how old you thought Downey looked in those?

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I clocked that too. I think she was playing a bit older, and he was playing a bit younger, but it was still a stretch.

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It didn't occur to me at all. I've watched the film several times, and it makes sense to me. They look like they could be about the same age.

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Not to me, but it didn't really bother me (though other things did and I ultimately rated the movie 4/10 although there were some fun elements).

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I'm not the only one, BTW, although LaSalle didn't mind either and liked the movie overall better than I did:

https://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/Kiss-gives-props-to-pulp-genre-while-satirizing-2598930.php
"Monaghan and Downey hardly look as if they could have been schoolmates. The movie could have accounted for the discrepancy by saying that she spent 10 years cryogenically frozen or that he spent that long eating nothing but toxic waste. Instead, Black chooses not to explain it, and soon the reason for their casting becomes apparent: Their comic rhythms are in perfect synch."

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I'm not searching these out, just happening across them as I read reviews (so far, in three of the seven reviews I've read):

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/21/movies/los-angeles-detective-and-new-york-thief-channel-pulp-fiction.html
"Harmony is played by Michelle Monaghan, who holds her own nicely in fairly intense company. You may find yourself wondering, all the same, about Harmony's beauty secrets, since while she and Harry are meant to be around the same age, the more-than-10-year gap between Ms. Monaghan and Mr. Downey is glaringly evident."

https://variety.com/2005/film/awards/kiss-kiss-bang-bang-2-1200525881/
"As nicely set up as it is, however, the Harry/Harmony reunion presents a major problem, simply because Downey looks about 15 years older than Monaghan, with both characters briefly repped by child actors of the same age; the issue continues to dog the film throughout."

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