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Unbelievable displays of carelessness and laziness by George Lucas


Recently rewatched EP I and I took extensive notes of things I couldn't believe made it into the final movie. Lucas was really sloppy when writing and directing this film... Let me share a few (this list is by no means exhaustive):

1. When Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon arrive, the Trade Federation wants to give up the blocade because they don't want to confront the Jedi. That means they had... no plan for that option??? I think they should have expected that eventually the Jedi will be involved, so right out of the gate an example of lazy storytelling, as the villains seem really lame and not at all threatening at that moment. Of course you can argue that Sidious is the villain, not them, and I am aware of that, nevertheless, it's ridiculous to assume he did not prepare the TF for this option.

2. The delivery of lines during combat situations. When the Jedi arrive to Naboo, and plan to escape with the queen's ship, they discuss a plan to get to the hangars. And that discussion happens in a relatively open area, where droids can appear at any moment. And the line delivery from all the actors is very stilted and meticulous. There is nothing suggesting they are in danger and can be ambushed at any second while they are talking. There is no sense of danger or tension in the direction of these scenes either - with the bland, uninteresting camera angles and really basic editing, the action scenes are really nothing special throughout the film. And in the case of a Star Wars movie, that's really-really careless and lazy.

3. When they are escaping Naboo, they just fly straight into the blocade. They don't try to evade it, they don't even search for a weaker point when they have a chance to fly through. And when they are eventually through... no one is chasing them, the Trade Federation cannot be bothered to send even a handful of interceptors... or activate a tractor beam to capture the ship... or do... anything, really. I thought the point of the blocade was to not let anyone in or out, but obviously they didn't mind the queen escaping - come on, how lazy can you be when you write this story, George?

4. No father / prophecy. I don't like prophecies, because they are rarely executed well. Here, Lucas took the easy way out regarding Anakin's parentage, which is - you guessed it - a really lazy way to do it. The justification is that he is the chosen one. An example of a well done prophecy is from the same year: the original Matrix movie I think handled it cleverly and with a twist. Here? Nah.

5. When they get to Coruscant, the SW universe has the chance to show the center of the Republic, the home of the Senate, a buzzing city with many many interesting sights... but we are confined into sterile rooms where we have to endure stilted and uninteresting political blabbering. Where is your vision, George? If this was it, then it's really pitiful to see...

6. The uninteresting political babbling really affects the pacing. The film basically halts for twenty minutes, where really nothing interesting is happening. The Jedi council scenes, as well as the Senate scenes are full of bland and stilted dialogue.

7. In the Jedi council, Mace Windu says they are going to do everything to find out who was the attacker of Qui-Gon. But they don't do anything, they don't even send ONE Jedi to accompany Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to Naboo! The council is blatantly useless anyways. I know George wanted them to look like they are overconfident, but come on, this is ridiculous.

8. When they approach Naboo, the audience expects a clever solution to circumvent the blocade. After all, when they escaped Naboo at the beginning of the movie, they barely made it out, only thanks to Artu's heroics. Now, when they are going back, how will they get through? Well... laziness, that's how. George kinda forgot that the blocade is there, so they just land with their ship, without any problems. Come on, an error like this would not be tolerated in a student film, let alone in a Star Wars movie!

9. When the Queen and Panaka's team is trying to get to the throne room, in one scene they are using grappling hooks. There is a shot where they ascend a level up. Consists of two shots, similarly framed, the group exits on the top of shot #1 and enters from below to shot#2. And the whole sequence looks like it's from a 1972 Eastern European TV-movie. The direction is so lazy, it didn't even include a far away shot, a shot from a different angle, or from inside the building... Just two very similar shots, where the lighting of the actors is different from the lighting of the environment, and the ascending movement is very unnatural and stilted... a catastrophe, and honestly baffling that this could make the final cut in a production of such prestige, but eh...

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10. After these grappling hook shenanigans, the group is advancing towards the throne room, when suddenly droids appear, among them some Droidekas as well. Are we seriously to believe that they did not prepare for droids? Oh, man… Anyways, that’s not even my main gripe with this. We cut to other battles, then we are back here - and suddenly the Queen’s squad gets the upper hand and blasts away all the droids in the Viceroy’s vicinity… but hey… where are the Droidekas? At the beginning of the movie, we saw that even the Jedi cannot defeat a Droideka in one-on-one combat, so a couple of people with blasters stand absolutely no chance. I even murmured “Hmm… I don’t recall how they handled them…” to myself. The answer is again, to the surprise of no one - laziness and sloppiness. The Droidekas conveniently entirely disappear, only the ridiculously fragile matchstick droids remain that can be one-shotted by Amidala & co. easily. It’s sad, especially because the filmmakers did a great job with the design and with setting them up as actually dangerous foes… but we get no payoff because George did not feel the creativity in himself the day he wrote this page, so he decided to kinda forget that they were there in the first place.

11. Finally, the lightsaber fight. It is touted as the best part of the movie, and I agree. But the best part of a bad movie is… still bad. Or mediocre at most. Let’s see why: everytime I watch this scene and try to get into it, it becomes really apparent how meticulously they coreographed the whole thing, and how every actor is working towards their next beat and to provide the parry opportunity to the other guys. I mean don't get me wrong, the coreography is amazing and the actors did an excellent job rehearsing and performing it, but this is supposed to be a fight, and not a dance routine.

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It's not really the sophistication of the moves that really sells a fight. The movements should be a bit rough around the edges, as your goal as a fighter is not to provide spectacle to onlookers, but to really hurt the other guy. At no point in this fight do I get the sense that any of the Jedi seriously want to slay Maul - there are even points in the fight where a simple slash or stab would have instantly ended the fight, but the actor instead of taking the opportunity, goes for an useless sword twirl or fills his time until the next beat with a jump or some other BS. Specific example: at the very beginning, right after the double lightsaber reveal, Obi-Wan gets behind Maul, and while he is parrying Qui-Gon's strike, Obi has a clear opportunity to slash Maul, but he instead twilrls his saber, and from that starts a delayed attack allowing Maul to parry - clearly according to the coreography.

The whole fight lacks the display of raw emotions and powerful moves that would really hurt the opponent. It's still a great scene, but I can't help but notice these things which ultimately take me out of the experience, sadly.

The characterization of Maul… well, Ray Park gives everything he’s got to sell this character without dialogue, and he does a great job - still, Maul is really under-developed and shallow. Thus, we are not really invested in the outcome of the fight, since we don’t really feel why Maul is a bad guy. I gotta hand it to them: in the character design, instead of including a sidekick following him around and pointing a glowing arrow at him, which is capioned “HE IS EVIL!” they went for red facepaint and devil-like horns. Yeah, ok, it’s a step in the right direction, but still incredibly lazy from George to not put in the work for creating a compelling character, and just slap a devilish design on top and call it a day. At this point though, it’s par for the course.

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Also, Ray Park had a great idea for Qui-Gon’s death - he wanted to use Maul’s horns to cause an injury on Qui-Gon’s chest… but Lucas said “Naaah, we can’t do that, it’s too violent” - so the idea was scrapped. I think it would have been a great unexpected move, and it would have worked better than what we eventually got, which was kind of a lazy way to dispose of Qui-Gon, inkeeping with the theme of my post. Of course in TESB, Luke’s hand is chopped off altogether, and that was not “too violent”, apparently.

Another really weak point of the choreography, is when at the very end, Maul has more than 2 seconds to react to Obi-Wan’s final move (I timed it), and for a guy that held his own against 2 opponents in an intense lightsaber fight, that’s an absurdly long time… and he just stands there and gets chopped in half… which is - again - not “too violent” apparently.

I have many more points, but let’s stop here for now. I think the overall quality of filmmaking in Episode I is incredibly sloppy, lazy, inconsistent and disrespectful towards the Original Trilogy. The end result as far as the visuals are concerned would be understandable if a first time director helmed this project with limited budget. As far as the writing goes, George”s laziness is unforgivable IMO - Episode I’s script is abysmal. And it clearly couldn’t be saved when filming, especially due to George’s laziness and sloppiness - which was largely enabled by others during filming, post-production, etc.

That’s it (for now), and hey - you gotta commend me for detailing this movie’s major flaws in 11 points, while not mentioning Jar-Jar a single time :-)

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The horns would've been hard to work in, I think. They're stubby, so any headbutt move would have to be really close. Imagine him dragging his head across Qui-Gon's chest and scratching him and... it just looks a bit silly in my head. Maybe it could've worked. I just think it would've been awkward - forget violence.

Ironically, A New Hope is better from script to screen and it was a much less experienced director (the same guy, in fact) with a much lower budget.

You're right: it starts with the crummy script. I think a script sets the possibilities of the film. It can be elevated or diminished from there. So, if the script is a "5", the director can elevate the material and get a 7 or 8, but it's not going to make it to a 10.

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I am not sure if that would have been a good idea ( Maul's horns).
You are right, Darth Maul does not react to the final Obi- Wan's attack (you say more than two seconds). The scene itself is cool but at the same time it took too long.

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On the choreo: I don't think it's quite as "pure ballet" as people think. It is over-choreographed, but aside from some twirly bits, it's not too bad. I think Park, in particular, does a good job of selling the ferocity of Maul's attacks despite the highly-choreographed moves.

It is too much and it doesn't have enough "weight", but I think that's as much due to the lack of compelling story. Contrast this with the fight in Episode IV: Obi-wan does his little spin move (Vader doesn't kill him why...?) and it's clearly just for style, but I care less because I'm interested in the meeting of master and apprentice as enemies, and because I'm worried that Vader will stop Luke & Co. from escaping.

So, even with gritty choreo making it feel more like a nasty brawl than a swordfighting display piece, it still wouldn't really work.

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10. I never noticed the Case of the Vanishing Droidekas before. Brings up some good possibilities. Amidala could have displayed some ingenuity here and figured out how to stop them - showing us (not telling!) why she's got a respected mind. Surprisingly low evidence for that elsewhere in the film... The other thing that makes me happy here, even if it is kinda schadenfreude type, is that there are SO MANY people who think the prequels can do no wrong and they dump on The Last Jedi for conveniently removing weaponry to protect Rey and Kylo Ren and they point to this as a grievous wrong, but apparently it happens in the prequels, too. Look, if people like the PT and hate the sequels, or vice-versa, that's cool, but let's not pretend there aren't flaws.

11. I think the main reason I'm not into the fight at the end is because I never cared about Darth Maul (overhyped - I don't understand the love for this nothing character who just looks demonic, so he's...cool...?) and the two Jedi weren't engaging characters here, so... It's the same reason I didn't care about the battles in Rogue One: I don't care about the characters, so why care about the outcome. The choreo is definitely great, though, and John Williams' music...

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Vanishing Droidekas: I just had a conversation about the relativization of the prequels in light of the sequel trilogy - here it is:

https://moviechat.org/tt0120915/Star-Wars-Episode-I-The-Phantom-Menace/616f96ddb027f67d21f4cc46/Was-this-the-most-heartbreaking-event-in-history?reply=61f7e25bbd83ea275cb53070

In short - I never view a movie as being better when a worse sequel / prequel comes out. So yes, the sequel trilogy is bad, but in a different way. I honestly can't even tell which set of movies is worse overall, but the point is that when the sequel trilogy came out, the prequel trilogy did not became magically better IMO.

Lightsaber Fight: Yes, agreed the lack of characterization and the script overall is the root of the problem here as well - I agree. I only argue that execution-wise it could have been better with a more gritty choreo, as you discussed in a different post, not perfect. For perfection, the foundation - the script - was not there.

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I'll read the thread and respond directly, but just to these short points:

Agreed; movies aren't better or worse because another one hit higher highs or lower lows. Sometimes we can't help the comparison, though. I maintain that the Matrix sequels (and the prequels, actually) would be thought of as weird, quirky cult classics without their far-superior previous films. Doesn't mean they're good, just that they're "okay" and suffer severely in comparison.

Which set is worse? I don't know. I think I like The Force Awakens more than the others, although there's a lot that's messed-up about it. But I think I had the most fun watching that one. I also respect The Last Jedi for trying really hard. It failed hard, too, of course.

That said, the prequels didn't squelch the OT as much. Midichlorians suck, but I can ignore most of it, as opposed to the slap in the face of Han being a deadbeat dad and similar foolishness in the sequels. Of course, I ignore that tommyrot as well... OT all the way.

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1. Yeah, there are a lot of plot details that leave little holes everywhere. One or two is understandable (writers and directors can't think of absolutely everything, and at the end of the day, it's a fun sci-fi/fantasy adventure movie), but this many is not. Compounded with other problems of characterization and tone-deafness and the plot hiccoughs become aggravating.

2. I blame most of this on the writing and a bit on the directing. Lucas wrote expositional dialogue ("Get to the hangar") without any colour - as you say. That makes it almost impossible for actors to deliver it in such a way that it conveys danger. The director could have saved it, but "Faster" and "More intense" won't get that from actors, especially guys like Neeson and McGregor who have great instincts and polished delivery. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but hear me out. If a performer sounds smooth and polished, why would the director go for take two? If they have great instincts, why contradict them?

3. The blockade could have been much more of a threat - yes - but I do understand flying straight for it. They could have just flown directly to the end of the Death Star's trench, too, instead of flying down it the whole way, right? To quote Harrison Ford, "It's not that kind of movie". But, all your other points are bullseye. The blockade is too easy to get through, which belies the foundational building blocks of the plot.

4. Didn't really think of this, but yes, the prophecy could've been cool, but it wasn't well-executed - kind of a microcosm of the prequels, in-general.

5. This (and the previous point) are why I've never supported the "The Prequels were good at world-building," idea. They showed us a lot of different planets and made up stuff about the Jedi code, but it was flat, unexplored, and/or made little sense.

6. The worst of this is that politics can be amazingly intriguing. Aaron Sorkin, anybody?

7. To be fair, they sent Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, so they don't necessarily need to send more.

8. I don't think I ever thought about this, but yes, this should've been a bigger deal.

9. Again, I don't think I noticed this. I'd have to re-watch to confirm, but… I think I'll just take your word for it.

For me, the big thing is the disjointed feel of the whole film, and the prequels generally-speaking. The tone is inconsistent, the plot and characters are all over the place… it started with the writing, which wasn't as tight as with the first films, and continued through the design of the film - overreliance on CGI without a good plan to compensate for the actors not being able to interact with the creations and environment.

The worst part is that Lucas clearly has a creative mind. THX-1138, American Graffiti, and Star Wars are all tight scripts, good direction, and inventive and original. They're great! I don't know if he got rusty after that (allowing others to write/direct the rest of the OT) but for whatever reason, he lost "it". Maybe it's just that he didn't have anybody who questioned him and didn't feel he had anything to prove. Maybe he was just too busy? Writing and directing are a job each - let along producing, designing, overseeing the whole thing, plus the day-to-day of his many companies… plus, and this is to his credit, Lucas has always seemed pretty "dad" oriented and prioritized his kids over filmmaking.

At the end of the day, he deserves all the accolades we can give him for his creative vision and early films, and he deserves all the respect we can give him for his priorities.

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As I see we agree on almost all the points (hey, no love for #10 and #11? :-) ), but let me elaborate on #2. It's a joy to hear Neeson's and MacGregor's delivery of lines, that's for sure. But I am watching an action scene, not a Shakespeare play. It's the director's job to instruct the actors to focus on the core aspect of the scene in question.

"Sell me the danger you are in!" - George should have said, and Neeson & MacGregor are more than capable of doing so. Of course, there were circumstances during the shoot that did not really help the actors, such as the fact that there were no other actors present playing foes, as droids were added in post. But as George did not really care about the overall impact of the scene, he did not help creating a dynamic on-set that could have made their deliveries more lively, more exciting, more real. And that leads me to believe that he did not care about the overall impact of the scene, which is a really lazy way to direct a movie.

Speaking of George's priorities - I can understand that being a dad was important for him, and that's great! For this very reason I think it was genius from him to let others direct TESB and RotJ - and this is what he should have done in the case of the prequels as well. That way these films would have got the much needed diverse creative input they are lacking. Watching the behind the scenes of this movie, it's noticeable that there is a weird aura around George. People respect him, that's absolutely understandable, but his ideas are not always good, not always work, and yet people seemed afraid to question him, challenge him or even to make suggestions - and that really shows in the end result.

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I didn't see the second post. I hit the reply button pretty quick.

#2 - 100%, yes. George's job is to get more drama from the scene. He failed himself as a writer first. In fact, speaking of Shakespeare, most scenes in Shakespeare are filled with such great writing that (ironically) Lucas probably could've left Neeson and McGregor alone, for the most part, and received a MUCH better performance. If Neeson were Cassius to McGregor's Brutus, for instance, the scenes of persuasion and plotting would instantly become fiery and would work just because the writing works and the actors are good. A good director could push it further, but with TPM (and the other prequels) the foundation (the writing) is broken, and then the execution doesn't help.

The worst of it is that, apparently, he offered the job to Steven Spielberg, but Spielberg said they were George's stories and George should direct them. Imagine what might have been? Spielberg and Lucas in a room hashing out the stories (solving a bunch of plot holes, no doubt) and then Spielberg brings in an expert screenwriter (Kasdan was RIGHT THERE! Come on!) to make the whole thing work on the page.

Or, y'know, maybe it would've been another Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Or maybe Star Wars fans just can't be pleased. I've wondered about that for awhile. No matter what was done, these things were doomed from the start. Stick too close to formula and it's nostalgia bait with no originality. Push too far out and it breaks itself and ruins the storyline (see episodes VII and VIII, respectively, for examples).

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Oh, yes, I 100% agree - the script can't be saved, that's for sure...

And the Spielberg collaboration could have been marvelous. I'm not 100% sure it would have been, but if Spielberg was involved, the chances of a better movie are really, really high.

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I'm not sure it would have been, but yes, odds would've been more in the film's favour.

It is also possible that Star Wars fans just couldn't have been satisfied with whatever came out next. The OT was so long in our minds as "Star Wars", a complete story, that any expansion would've jostled with what we wanted or thought we wanted. Is that possible?

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Possible, yes.

For example, let's take the design of the environments, especially Naboo and the palace. George wanted classical architecture, because in his mind, this is a prequel, so it's a costume / historical movie. But when I first saw the palace and the throne room, I immediately went: "This is not Star Wars, this is clearly Earth architecture!".

I'd argue that using a real life historical palace (located in Italy BTW) was too lazy of a solution. I can respect George's vision that he wanted to get historical vibes from the environments in certain scenes. OK then. But this all takes place long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... so how could I wrap my head around the fact their architecture in their space age exactly mimics our architecture from the Middle Ages? Like just... seriously what? Same with that stupid 50s diner in Episode II. Buildings and designs don't exist in a vacuum, and I am sure Coruscant's culture did not go through the exact same phases as the US did up until the 1950s.

Bringing in new and creative designs for ships, droids and environments only enriches the saga. Bringing in blatantly existing elements from our Earth, from our history cheapens it. We'll never know, but if Lucas properly designed a historical environment which is historical in the context of the SW universe, then maybe - just maybe - more people would've liked this movie and the other prequels. That would've showed a true creative vision instead of "hey, let's go to a palace, that's historical, right?"

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I didn't mind the Naboo-Italian architecture, but yeah, that '50s diner was so weird. I think because Obi-wan was doing this whole mystery plotline that he was doing the noir detective thing or something. It makes no sense. And that's the tone thing. The OT are adventure movies. They're sci-fi/fantasy and they're about adventures. TPM is the same, albeit with its tone all over the place (it's for seven-year-old kids who really like political drama?) But then Attack of the Clones has Obi-wan doing a mystery movie and Anakin and Padme in an Old Hollywood romance. It all feels half-baked.

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I always thought it was surprising that Lucas had 15 years to think of something amazing for his new Star Was movie, and this was the best he could come up with.

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Still better than 3 foot tall bears beating up Storm Troopers. Who writes that kind of crap?

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"how did we get to this totally incredible universe with the rebels and empire and force? let's open with a boring trade dispute and politics!"

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Do you want some cheese with your whine, Prequel Hater?

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the prequels deserve to be hated

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Yeah but it's kinda been done to death, 10+ years ago ..

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Just want to point out that 8 isn’t a plot hole. They specifically point out that there’s only one ship on their scope. The droid command ship. The blockade was no longer in place because they’d successfully took over control of the planet.

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"They specifically point out that there’s only one ship on their scope"

Yes, this is correct. But it's still surprising for the audience, since we would expect the blocade being still in place.

"The blockade was no longer in place because they’d successfully took over control of the planet."

This was not established prior to this moment - if I missed it, could you quote the piece of dialogue confirming this?

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“Is the planet secure?” Palpatine.

“We have complete control of the planet now.” Nute Gunray.

Pretty sure that’s the exact dialogue. It’s a small scene that takes place directly before Qui-Gon and the others go back to Naboo.

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But why would that mean they are dismantling the blocade?

And if it somehow means that, it just doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't they want to keep it as their first line of defense from outside intervention?

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Well that’s another question. To be honest it doesn’t make sense to me to keep it in place once the invasion was successful. Its purpose had been served and they needed all their troops on the ground in order to maintain control and stop the greatest threat (which was from within on Naboo itself).

Outside forces intervening on a large scale was never going to happen, because Sidious had control of the Senate and the Trade Federation trusted him to keep it that way.

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"Outside forces intervening on a large scale was never going to happen, because Sidious had control of the Senate and the Trade Federation trusted him to keep it that way."

What you are saying makes sense, but nothing in particular gave me that impression in the movie... I think this is very poorly presented.

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Fair enough, yes. I personally think the large majority of your criticisms are valid, and yet I still enjoy watching The Phantom Menace. I think because it doesn’t take itself too seriously. Yet it knows not to go too far and descend into outright farcical stuff.

Nostalgia plays a big part as well, I’ll admit. But I still think TPM has the spirit of Star Wars more than The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker does (The Force Awakens worked for me).

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That's nonsense. Because the TF had control of the planet surface, they no longer needed to blockade or patrol the space above it? There's no logic in that. Unless the TF wanted to give new arrivals at the planet a false sense of security in order to capture them on the surface,

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You’re missing the point. They outright KNEW no outside forces would come because Sidious had control of the Senate. He tells them this.

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Who said anything about the Senate? Control of the senate was never going to stop Amidala from going back there anyway. And what about the Jedi? They chose to go with Amidala. But they could just as well have gone by themselves if they chose to.

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You don’t leave an entire blockade in place to prevent just a handful of people from getting to the planet. In all likelihood it probably wouldn’t even work that well anyway against a small ship, and then the ground would be virtually defenceless to attack from the people of Naboo. The Trade Federation only had a limited number of droids to rely on.

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while ANH was made by a lot of talented people and with lots of adversity. Lucas was surrounded by Yes men and no one would reign him in. And by the time of the film he had lost what talent he has as a director in ANH. also multiple reports say his wife had edited A new hope into the masterpiece it was, and before that was an incoherent mess.

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Heh - Have you watched RedLetterMedia's review on this? They pretty much crucify the entire movie.

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I did, immediately, back when it came out. I deliberately tried to focus on points here they did not mention.

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Plenty of bad points on TPM. Seems to be a movie entirely of bad points... My thoughts on yours:

1: A trade blockade has got to be the dullest idea for any movie, let alone Star Wars. What about all the trade routes being disrupted? I'm not sure what the Feds want out of this deal. An entire droid army invades Naboo while the Naboo's fleet of space ships sit back and do... nothing.

2: One of the major flaws of the movie; it's so unengaging, neither the plot or its execution, not the characters. ANH had lots of sneaking around the Death Star. That's suspenseful. We also have the shootout during the escape from the detention block. There's shouting, laserbolts, explosions, smoke... that's exciting.

3: I hated this too. The only way to escape the enemy is to fly right at them, whereas anyone with any sense would fly in a different direction and hit the hyperspace button. I guess that scene only exists to show that escaping the blockade is dangerous while in practice blockading an entire planet is completely stupid idea.

4: Virgin birth. Yawn, 0 points for originality.

5: An opportunity lost to expand the SW universe I guess, but we do see more of Coruscant in AotC.

6/7: This is the point in the movie where the whole plot goes FUBAR. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan can report to the Jedi council that the Feds tried to kill them and there's an entire army of attack droids on the planet. The Queen can say exactly the same to the senate, everyone knows communications to Naboo is down and *no-one* thinks of going to Naboo to find out what's going on.

8: If I remember correctly, when they return to Naboo most of the blockade has vanished. There's a complete lack of enemy ships otherwise the final battle would be very 1-sided.

9: Like point 2 - it's so unengaging. At no point during that grappling hook scene does anyone look like they're in a life-or-death situation. The only sound effect you need for that scene is *Wheee!".

10: I can't remember that part.

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11: Part of an agenda I guess. Must have lightsaber fight. Would have been much more fun had any of the characters had more development, especially Maul. But there's 4 simultaneous battles going on. I'd keep the lightsaber fight but drop one of the others. If you want shite lightsaber battle watch the fight in the throne room in TLJ.

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Very true - the TLJ throne room scene is awful, the choreography is worse to begin with, and the execution is downright pathetic at times.

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Don't point him to that fat retard's SHIT.

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"When Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon arrive, the Trade Federation wants to give up the blocade because they don't want to confront the Jedi."
As I recall, only one of the Neimoidians wanted to back out; Sidious called him a "stunted slime" and told him to "get out of my sight".

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