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"You don't really know what its really like to create something, create a life."


"All you know how to create is death and destruction", what do we make of it, thanks.

In some ways, it almost predicts some of our moral complainers that we see on the internet that humans are often more destructive than constructive and also, it makes one wonder, if good can in its own way be just as addictive as the bad.

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Feminist crap.

Reality - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4454964/Female-rulers-27-likely-wage-WAR-males.html

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Even so...

What about simply humans who are good, and in this case who happened to be a female, thinking positively and in times before the internet, and whatever we may or may not think of feminists, its just about being a good human or what do good people alone not exist and nothing ever is that simple?

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I also really don't think that in that scene, Sarah Connor was in any way shape or form affected by "feminism" or even in any way for or especially "against" it, it was a purely HUMAN wish based on the potential apocalyptic disaster she knew the world was soon about to face, albeit in a fictional sci-fi action movie scenario, and perhaps yeah like with the link you provided certain including women MAY feel differently but its not a universal whole.

So its not really feminist or anti-feminist non-sense.

Besides, what do you think about the actual line and the way it was said? It was like - "You could be good but you decide to be bad. Are you not ashamed of yourself?" (Feminism or no feminism - as young people, we must have at least heard or said that type of phrase in our lives at least once, no?)

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Also Hybrid66 -

I can't believe there are ACTUAL STATISTICS on say "potentially unpopular opinions" like that one. And if that is the case, why do I still see many people including female ones (for lack of any other terms) PROTEST wars including several modern ones of the last 20-30 years?

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That rant by Sarah is the only part of this otherwise perfect actioner that I've always found to be a bit cringey. Ever since I first saw this movie. John rightfully points out that Sarah wasn't being very constructive in what was a very dire situation.

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"John rightfully points out that Sarah wasn't being very constructive in what was a very dire situation."
I thought her son just wanted her to calm down in that moment and stop holding anymore grudges on Myles Dyson and not attempt to hurt or kill him any further, especially since previously she almost killed him.

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It always struck me as more crazy than cringey, this ultra-violent nutball who's out to murder an innocent man raving and embarrassing her kid.

She really was crazy after all she'd been through, she just wasn't crazy in the way that the doctors thought she was.

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Agreed, that’s the way I saw it

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And John was being very polite and diplomatic there and not all mad, angry, grudge holding etc.

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As an engineer I was always a bit affronted by that line , Miles used his genius brain to create life (albeit artificial) through hard work , study , experimentation , years of development etc


.. all she did was drop her panties.

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Plus, he has a son.

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the wife was also in the room. She did give birth.

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LOL

Miles states it was years beyond him so he didn't create it.

Skynet creates itself that is the point.

I understand what she is getting at she had to carry a life for 9 months and protect it.

SHe was unstable ptsd

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I understand what she is getting at too ,
but i think my point stands about the ability of science to create stuff , regardless of whether or not skynet was one of those things .
(Sarah is bitching at men and science in general , not Dyson specifically )

The device you're reading this on , the routers , fibreoptics , satellites , servers , medicine , vaccines , cars , space ships and pretty much everything else you see in the world around you are some of those things.

... apart from recent chatGPT created art / poems / computer code .
This is the dawn of AI , maybe we should be worried

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I'll take it even more basic than that. The fact that we can go to a grocery store and buy as much food as we need, then take it home and preserve it in a refrigerator, cook it on a stove top, and wash/sanitize everything with clean running water. All of that in itself is a huge improvement above a simple primitive life.

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Spot on
Those basics are the things we'd miss more than a DVR , but are seldom appreciated.

Water comes out of the tap on demand ffs!
and a recent development for me is - i can even get hot water now! 😂 its still a novelty .

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Pretty sure she needed a guy to "create life", the cunt!

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Well... And no need to use that word at the end please, not to mention...

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That IS the whole point.

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Or at least one way of looking at it.

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