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So how is an alien used as a weapon?


Seems quite outdated and futile.
Any new engineered virus would make a much more effective tool.
It's also hard to handle n slow to deploy.

Saddam had better wmds than aliens.

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Seems quite outdated and futile.
Probably.

Any new engineered virus would make a much more effective tool.
Agreed.

It's also hard to handle n slow to deploy.
Maybe seemed like a good idea at the time.

Saddam had better wmds than aliens.
Turns out he didn't.

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Yeah I meant that Saddam, having no wmds, had better wmds than aliens could ever be, being very ineffective and hard to handle.

Imagine Colin Powell and Cunty Rice illustrating satellite images of a cage where aliens are walking about like a petting zoo telling us "we need to bomb and invade Iraq, he has these!"

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Thing is they probably aren't effective as a weapon, but for all we know the Space Jockeys figured that out and were getting rid (wouldn't want them on your own door step after all) and one got out, hence the derelict.
So despite them not being an effective weapon, that doesn't mean they weren't initially designed to be.

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Or maybe they become outdated, like when they were invented they didn't know explosives. If you think about it, people invented dogs for defense, guarding, war use etc. At some point they were effective for that. Now they are outdated in most of these fields, still number one for cuteness or friendship-like an alien!

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Seems feasible.

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You drop a queen on a populated planet. The queen does its thing. The whole planet is being overrun by xenomorphs. Troops that would be needed elsewhere have to be sent to the planet. The military is stuck on the planet for several months (or years).

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Ok, so it's just a distraction.
I guess that works.
Not really the greatest weapon, barely an inconvenience.

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This was always such a stupid plot point that they pursued in literally EVERY media of the Aliens, Predator, and AVP storylines.

It never made sense to me.

Only the Predators' aim to utilize the queen as a breeder and humans as fodder (or prey) made sense to weaponize the xenomorphs. Otherwise it just didn't make sense.

It's about as effective as military raptors used as assassins (ala Jurassic World).

It's so stupid it's insulting.

Still, the idea could be salvaged as a population-control device by Predators. And had that been the story direction they went with, it could have opened up a lot of huge story opportunities. Unfortunately, writers with talent don't exist in Hollywood or are the ones never tapped to adapt a script for a screenplay.

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Yes I agree with you.
Also, I could stand it once, but fuck it, they kept repeating this crap ever since it was mentioned.
In 4 Ripley has some superpowers from aliens. Nobody even cares, as in "these creatures can be used to improve humans! Let's focus on that!". Nothing, it's the weapon bs or nothing.

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Ha, yeah. Great point.

I actually forgot that they managed to turn Ripley into Captain America using the xenomorph DNA, yet that plot point was quickly abandoned. In AVP, Prometheus, and Covenant they literally went right back to "Let's use aliens as bioweapons!"

I watch the new films just for the novelty of it, but boy oh boy are they stupid. Films like Cloverfield Paradox lightly shuffled over far more intriguing concepts regarding deep space and multi-verse paradoxes. It's content that the Aliens franchise easily could have covered, but they decided to just keep retreading the same concepts over and over again. Literally, Prometheus and Covenant were like bad mish-mash of tropes and scenario admixtures of Alien and Aliens but without any intelligent characters nor a cohesive story (well, Prometheus' ending promised something cohesive but then abandoned it quickly in the sequel to retread the kill-off team concept from the first Alien film! Ugh).

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Yes, the franchise potential was squandered as badly as terminator, predator or robocop.
Too bad.
Hollywood is run by morons, that's never gonna change.

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I always interpreted the "Bioweapon division" line as multiple possibilities.

There is of course the first thing that pops into your mind, which is deploying actual aliens as weapons. That is indeed risky and not very effective - assuming the people you are attacking have guns... it's does not sound like a viable strategy.

But there are other ways. Mainly what I think would be most realistic is to analyze the structure of the aliens. For example the acid could be analyzed, synthetized and weaponized. Or any other material they are producing can be synthetised then used in bombs, chemical weapons, etc.

Even as a kid when I first saw the film in 1992, I thought more along the lines of creating new weapons / upgrading existing ones with alien material - and not really about deploying the actual creatures in war.

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reproduces quicklys. in high dense population it reek havoc.

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Problably less havoc than a rat. At east the rat carries diseases, this alien is easy to spot and to dispose of, with the right equipment.

Weapon, not annoyance.

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maybes. see how fast they are full grown? could harvests millions!! many planets across galaxy. might be use for more remote colonys.

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Ok, but they also need food, and their food is strictly animals, and they need animals also to breed. I mean, come on, they are strategically pretty weak on many points.

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I think they used the term "bio-weapon," so it sounds like they planned to use them as attack dogs, but unlike in "Alien," "Aliens" showed the xenomorphs as stupid. The only reason the Colonial Marines lost was because they went in with no ammo and then they ran out of ammo later. They were doing good against the xenomorphs one on one. One thing I don't like about "Aliens" is how Cameron made them dumb animals that were easy to kill. In the first movie the xenomorph seemed very stealthy and smart.

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I agree that in Aliens they are stupid and are dispatched by the dozens, which is underwhelming.
But if you put it in context, in Alien it has the chance to hide and pick one by one the crew because it's a huge spaceship, the alien is alone and outnimbered, and the crew is unharmed. In Aliens, they are being attacked by a team of trained soldiers, armed to their teeth, and the location is not as claustrophobic, so they have less chance to create any strategy.

I have to say, either way, the alien is not that dangerous when faced with the correct weapon. It's a great beast, but considered the technology humans own in 2100, it's not scarier than a lion or a bear.

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I always thought there were two purposes, trying to control the creature and have it obey commands, but there was also the possibility of studying it, using it for experiments to develop perhaps a virus or something like they ended up creating with the human-alien hybrids in Alien: Resurrection.

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So you suggest they would come up with some use for this creature. It's such a great weapon they have to figure out what to do with it...
I mean, how much money does this Weyland Utani company own?
They make it sound like it's the shit, while it's a property not even remotely worth the risks of gathering it, handling it, researching it, owning it.
I wouldn't touch that shit with a three meter stick.
Who's in charge in this company making these decisions? The stockholders should hang the CEO by the balls.

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The investment into this is minimal compared to the amount of money Weyland/Utani has.

Many companies invest in other products, some just for research, some that will never be available to public, etc.

As you can clearly see they are unaware of the magnitude/consequences... Ripley does!

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Of course the investment is minimal. It's the legal implications and PR clusterfuck that a super rich company should avoid.
Why do you think major studios fired Kevin Spacey etc?
And that is not as deadly.
Big companies do not like potential headaches with no clear returns.

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I mean here on Earth a lot of stuff comes out... imagine them being in space... they can probably hide things easier so far away from everything.

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