Yes, I am a cripple. And you, madam, are black
some one said this was actually said by someone in the first season what episode was that? lol
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Watching it now. What the hell? Lol
shareI think it was just his way of saying don't walk on egg shells around me because I'm handicapped and I won't walk on egg shells around you because you're black. But I haven't watched the episode in a while so I don't remember the exact context of that exchange.
shareBasically he knocked into her or the other way around and he was mad at himself and she saw his arm and started to apologize and that's when he dropped the line. It was so messed up but i couldn't help but laugh. Reminded me of Dwight from Scary Movie 2. I can do it myself!
shareLike I said, I can understand what they were going for, the bitter, uncensored type of person who says all sorts of offensive stuff without blinking an eye, similar to House. But even in those cases it has to be handled very delicately so as not to make the show itself and its writers look like racists themselves.
shareI think he said that to point the obvious and that there was no need to make more out of it. They did a somewhat similar thing on 3rd Rock From the Sun.
shareThis is a kind of insult that has been around since forever. One of the most famous was by Winston Churchill, who dearly loved his gin (his recipe for a martini was to pour gin into a pitcher while looking at the bottle of vermouth on a table on the other side of the room). Apparently one night at a party he got rather sloppy, and he ended up annoying some woman. The woman said, "Sir, you're drunk!" To which he replied with something like, "Yes, I am drunk, and you are ugly. However, in the morning I will be sober, whereas you...".
An insult is an insult, but given how political correctness has consumed our culture, some are more insulting than others. It's a safe bet such a remark like that will never be uttered on the new Macgyver. People today just cannot take things on an even keel because they've been programmed think certain ways, and only certain ways. Thinking intelligently is no longer allowed.
I can't help but point out that the woman in question is played by Tracy Reed a woman I've had a thing for ever since she used to appear in McCloud. She's ten years older in MacGyver, and like a fine wine, she only got better. She's yet another actress who didn't have the career she should have had.
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Everyone may have an opinion but very few seem to have an informed one.
Are you associating being Black with ugliness? That's messed up, wow.
share""Yes, I am drunk, and you are ugly. However, in the morning I will be sober, whereas you...". "
That guy was _NEVER_ sober, so there goes his argument.
Also, the original 'insulter' should've said "You are A drunk", to be more accurate and for him to not have any retort.
Also also, being drunk is more serious than being ugly - 'ugly' might not have any consequences or affect someone's work ability, but being drunk can create a lot of problems, difficulties and dangers, and many people have been killed because of drunks, not many people have been smitten to death by someone's sheer ugliness.
Therefore, that 'insult' is not very effective, especially considering 'being a drunk' can last many incarnations, whereas 'ugly' usually only lasts for one, and is only a bodily quality, where 'being a drunk' ruins someone's whole being.
Yeah, drunk is worse than ugly, winston was a damn idiot.
"This is a kind of insult that has been around since forever. One of the most famous was by Winston Churchill, who dearly loved his gin (his recipe for a martini was to pour gin into a pitcher while looking at the bottle of vermouth on a table on the other side of the room). Apparently one night at a party he got rather sloppy, and he ended up annoying some woman. The woman said, "Sir, you're drunk!" To which he replied with something like, "Yes, I am drunk, and you are ugly. However, in the morning I will be sober, whereas you..."."
What the...? That's not the same as all. That's more like a 'yo momma' insult, whereas the old man's comment was just saying there was no need to point out the obvious.
No one is a cripple, no one is a madam, no one is black.
These are mental concepts applied to the whole human being based on observation of the temporary, physical body's qualities.
YOU are not black just because your BODY is (and to be strict, a black body is extremely rare in the bipedal entity community, people usually talk about more brown-covered bodies - and even then, it's just the COVER, not the body itself - the bones are still white, the muscles are still red and so on).
YOU are not crippled, just because your BODY is (and even that is more of a philosophical concept than accurate statement - what makes a body crippled anyway? If you break your finger, is your body now crippled? If you have your arm cut off but get a great bionic arm, is your body crippled? What about compared to someone that has no legs or arms at all, shouldn't there be some kind of scale of 'crippledness'? Otherwise, the word loses its meaning, or becomes so vague, almost anything can be considered 'crippled').
'Madam' is a legalese term meant to create a joinder between the human being and artificial person that only exists on paper (etc), just like 'sir', 'mister', etc. are. Human being is never 'madam' or 'mister', but artificial person is.
This is, however, too long and complex topic to be able to be explained here, and since people don't even know or think about this stuff (and yet let it imprison them), it'd be useless anyway.
people usually talk about more brown-covered bodies - and even then, it's just the COVER, not the body itself - the bones are still white, the muscles are still red and so on
I'm reminded of Depeche Mode's People are People: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzGnX-MbYE4 share
But then a one-legged white woman, who's a Communist lesbian, entered the scene.
Acquitted.
The full line that he says is I am a cripple, and you are black. And neither of us is in a position for sympathy.
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