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Skynet's hard work makes no sense


Think how hard Skynet has to work to create 'infiltration units' that have 'sweat, bad breath and everything'.

Surely the reward has to be worth all that research and development, surely?

But look at how much Skynet benefits from creating 'humanlike robots' (still not cyborgs!).

They can get through the badly-guarded door maybe two seconds faster than if they just flooded that place with a big squad of efficient battle robots. Yeah, you get 'slightly faster entry' to a base you already know the location of, so you could bomb it, you could shoot poison gas into it, you could send all kinds of destructive things into it..

But instead, you create an OVERLY-complicated 'infiltration unit' that's just gonna shoot everyone openly and indiscriminatorily anyway?

What's the point?

When Skynet started researching 'infiltration units that NEVER ACTUALLY INFILTRATE', it didn't yet know that it would send one (ONLY ONE!!?) back in time, because it only did that after it had basically lost the war and humans would've won without that time machine ploy (and did anyway).

This means, it's irrelevant that it can go to 1984 and somewhat seem 'humanlike' enough to not be immediately detected. It's even more irrelevant, of course, because even this unit does NOT infiltrate anything, but BRUTEFORCES everything in sight from the second it detects people until the end.

The only time it tries to 'pass off as human being' is when it's either on the phone, or trying to get into the police station. That's about it. The rest of the time it acts like a BATTLE ROBOT, so when it also looks like one, it's kind of a really crummy infiltrator.

I mean, would anything be drastically different, if it DIDN'T sweat or have bad breath? It's flesh is shown to rot in one scene already, so its cover would be blown anyway. Even the scenes where it doesn't immediately murder someone or shoot or maim everyone and everything it sees or touches, wouldn't be THAT different, would they?

For example, the gun store scene - instead of peacefully making the store owner give him different guns and listing things, the owner would probably panic and try to flee, and the robot could easily catch him and kill him, THEN do all the gun stuff.

It spends most of its time either inside a car or on a motorbike, or destroying or murdering, so what's even the point of it looking like humans, let alone have it be such an accurately detailed depiction?

It could wear a friggin' hockey mask and everything would pretty much play out the same!

So why the HECK would Skynet work SO HARD to research, develop and create 'infiltration units', when they never INFILTRATE anything?

When you think of 'infiltration' in such a situation, you'd think it's like a 'comrade' that looks and moves like the humans do, to gain sympathy and trust, to then be able to acquire the intel it needs about the bases to kill the people.. sorry, terminate the people, and win the war. It would be like 'one of the guys' until it's time to 'betray' them and call in the attack squad or something.

It'd be like Cypher in 'The Matrix', but in a larger scale.

Did the writers even know what 'infiltration' is supposed to mean? It doesn't mean 'can't fool the dogs at the door but they will open it anyway because I have bad breath so then I can just start blasting immediately'!

Sheesh.. it makes NO sense, but then again, what does?

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Because the plot required infiltration units?

This time you're making sense.

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You could save yourself lots of time and typing if you just wrote "The Terminator" suck's! It's all nonsense fantasy and likely came from the mind of someone who was disappointed that there sex toy/s, let them down. So now I'm gonna try my very best to make all technology look bad!

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Avortac4 is either (A) a troll trying to waste everyone's time with such idiotic comments, or (B) the stupidest person on these message boards. Look at his posts. He doesn't think anything in any film makes sense. Don't feed the troll. Don't comment after my comment.

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Thats a good idea

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I think so too

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You're not paying attention. It was clearly stated to not comment after the last post

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so we should not comment ? got it !

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Good idea. I won't comment after this either.

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But you did it again. The instructions were quite clear. There are to be no more comments to this thread

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Oh, snap. My bad. I won't reply again.

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But you're still replying back. You're not very good at following instructions I see

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Avortac is here talking about movies. That’s the whole point of this place. His posts are too long and sometimes his opinion is too sensitive but, that’s not trolling.

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They're not really talking about movies though. They are upholding their own specious preconceptions of what Skynet's objectives, methods and capabilities should be be based on their own spurious criteria.

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Who cares though? I’m happy it’s a movie thread with an opinion about the plot. And even though he belabors it, the underlying observation is legitimate. We’re losing posters at this place and the main page is dominated with people at each other’s throats with politics and culture. The guy has 3,300 posts about movies and cv1cv shouldn’t be claiming the last word for everyone else who might be interested in the thread.

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"Who cares though?"

People that don't like supercilious, overbearing and haughty diatribes based on a false premise passing as discussion. (Especially when it's transparently schtick that they employ over and over again.)

They haven't observed anything other than the fact that Skynet uses infiltration units. The rest is based on the assumption that these infiltrators are Skynet's best and only option for destroying all enemy positions of all types.

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That’s a great point at the end of your second paragraph. I’m glad you and I are debating Avortak’s premise and neither of us chose to defer cv1cv’s instruction not to comment after his comment

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Couple of points.

1. My take on the Reese's flashback of the terminator attack, was that the Cyborg had "infiltrated" a group of humans and went with them to find the base so it could attack the base. The battle robots could have killed the small band of humans but that would have left the base untouched.

2. Skynet is a military program, descended from the American military. It is possible that it inhereted our flaw of doing shit, just because the tech was within reach, without full consideration of whether or not it was the most cost effective way on doing shit.

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So why the HECK would Skynet work SO HARD to research


For all you know, once Skynet conceived the idea it was inexpensive in every conceivable way to create and deploy these infiltration units, or at least comparable to the battle robots. And, for all you know, some of these infiltration bots indeed functioned like spies, with their main mission to gain intelligence about the human resistance. In Reese's flashback, you only saw one of these terminators in action. Who says that all they did was start blasting once they got past the dogs?

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