Raiders and Temple are the only good ones
They seemed to be the only ones that took themselves seriously, after Temple the franchise seemed to become a parody of itself.
shareTemple took itself seriously?
"Okeydokey, Dr. Jones, hold on to your potatoes!"
That was comic relief and I'm pretty sure that was a total of about 3 seconds of film.
Nice try though
That one comment was 3 seconds, yes. About the same time as it took to say this:
"And if you are a Scottish lord then I am Mickey Mouse!"
How many such comments in Crusade? How many such comments in Temple? Just about everything coming out of Shorty's mouth was something like that.
"Dr. Jones, no time for love! We got company!"
"Ha ha! Very funny! All wet!"
"I very little, you cheat very big!"
"Maybe he like older women?"
"Hang on, lady, we going for a ride."
"He no nuts. He crazy."
Combine that with Slapstick Willy and you got yourself a kiddie film. And you know what movie Temple was an inspiration for? The Goonies.
In Temple we had child slavery, voodoo magic, sacrifice scenes, extremely brutal deaths and a clear sense of danger for the heroes and in Crusade we had slapstick comedy and Mickey Mouse jokes. Yeah ok man Crusade is far more mature than Temple, idiot.
shareNot just child slavery, but child abuse and torture: The Indian slaves are knocked to the ground and slapped and generally treated like shit, and in the version of the movie I've got, Short Round is whipped on the back alongside Indy, which makes it especially nasty. That explains why Short Round is semi-conscious when he sees Indy succumbing to the Black Sleep of Kali.
Exactly it was dark, mature subject matter and it was intended for adults, while Last Crusade was intended for pre-schoolers, hence the Mickey Mouse humor.
shareIn Crusade we had nazis, a quest for the Holy Grail, a quest to reunite father and son, a real sense of danger for the heroes, betrayal, the death of Indy's love interest. In Temple we were given slapstick humour and elephant jokes.
See how easy it is to use your own logic to make the opposite argument, idiot?
At least it didn't have Mickey Mouse jokes.
shareNeither did Crusade. It featured a Mickey Mouse comment, and for the life of me I cannot figure out why you think it's such a big deal. It is NOT there for kids to laugh at, that's a ridiculous claim.
shareIt is a big deal and it was there for kids to laugh at. It shows that Spielberg and Lucas were abandoning the dark and mature subject matter of the first two and going in a more family friendly direction which ended up falling flat on its stupid face.
shareIf I remember correctly, Spielberg and star Kate Capshaw were going through an acrimonious divorce during filming, which is probably why the next film was lighter, as Spielberg didn't want to go through that again.
Acrimonious divorce? That wasn't to Kate Capshaw, who remains his wife 30 years later. You are probably thinking of the legal battles he had with Amy Irving which ended with her winning I believe $100,000,000 as a settlement with Spielberg owing to their son Max.
share"It is a big deal and it was there for kids to laugh at."
No it most certainly was not. The "Mickey Mouse" line was not a joke. The joke was Indy's pathetic attempt at passing for a Scot and having to knock the butler out. What's to laugh about "Mickey Mouse"? There's no joke in that.
"It shows that Spielberg and Lucas were abandoning the dark and mature subject matter of the first two"
Oh, you mean like the roller-coaster ride of Temple, Willy mounting the elephant the wrong way around, THE KID SIDEKICK, the Tom&Jerry sledge hammer moment, Willy panicking in the jungle while Indy and Shorty are playing cards, the bit with the rickshaw driver, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Temple isn't a "dark" movie at all. It is aimed specifically at children, precisely because of the things YOU think are dark. You'll find the same "dark" elements in the Goonies, which took a lot of inspiration from Temple.
Raiders was about the Ark of the Covenant, Temple was about the Thuggee cult, both had very mature and dark comic relief but the focus was always the adventure and the plot.
That was not the case with Crusade, Crusade was more of a parody it was more in line with movies such as Spaceballs, Airplane, the Naked Gun, etc. where the plot doesn't even really matter, all that mattered were the jokes and that is what Crusade was, just one big joke. The only difference is the aforementioned movies were actually funny while Crusade was not.
both had very mature and dark comic relief
Temple had "mature" comic relief? Do you expect me to believe that even YOU buy that yarn?
"Pankot?! I can't go to Pankot, I'm a singer! Oohhh, I need to call my agent. Is there a phone here? Anybody, I need a phone!"
Your attempt to compare Crusade to crazy comedies is likewise not worth taking seriously. "Where the plot doesn't even really matter"? How can you even live with yourself with such inane opinions as that? They are not based in reality.
See, there ARE legitimate objections to the humour in Crusade, but you don't actually make these objections. Instead, you falsely claim that Crusade was more slapstick heavy than Temple, when it is an objective fact that the opposite is true. And you seem to irrationally focus your ire on the fact that a minor character mentioned Mickey Mouse in a single sentence. You seem to think that this was meant to cause kids to laugh, but this is just an idiotic thing to say. And easily disproven:
The original line was, "...and if you are a Scottish lord, then I am Jesse Owens!"
So tell me, was anyone supposed to laugh at the mention of Jesse Owens? No? Then why assume anyone was supposed to laugh at the mention of Mickey Mouse? You know what other films include Mickey Mouse jokes? I can think of three off the top of my head:
Spectre
Full Metal Jacket
Leon
None of the above are children's movies, and in none of the above movies was the Mickey Mouse reference in any way aimed at kids. Just admit it, your Mickey Mouse argument has no legs to stand on. share
You are just cherry picking examples that suit your agenda, the call back to Raiders when Indy reached for his gun but then realizes he has to actually fight the swordsmen was a clever bit of humor, along with Indy and Willie's exchange while Indy and Short Round are locked in the spike chamber, Willie's disgust at the Monkey Brain Dinner, etc.
Sure Temple had some slapstick which I didn't agree with the difference is though the slapstick in Crusade was the focus, the plot meant nothing, while the plot was the main focus in Temple. It really didn't matter if Indy and Henry found the Holy Grail at not, what was important was that we had plenty of good laughs along the way much like how it was in Airplane, the problem is though the humor in Last Crusade WASN'T FUNNY.
And I will never forgive the Mickey Mouse joke, first of all they replaced Jesse Owens with that line which would have been far more clever and secondly it proves that the film was trying to dumb itself down to appeal to children. They took the Jesse Owens line out because Spielberg was afraid children wouldn't understand it. I'm sure if I visited a local preschool I would find a copy of Last Crusade right next to the fingerpaints.
In Full Metal Jacket the drill sergeant said Mickey Mouse because he was trying to demean the recruits, that is not uncommon for a drill sergeant and it wasn't intended to be a joke. It also wasn't intended to be a joke in Spectre, it was Bond's way of saying f-ck you to the guy, never saw Leon. However it was clearly intended to be a joke in Last Crusade so that the 4 year olds watching would get a chuckle.
"You are just cherry picking examples that suit your agenda"
I did that precisely to show you that that's what you were doing.
"the call back to Raiders when Indy reached for his gun but then realizes he has to actually fight the swordsmen was a clever bit of humor"
See what I mean? That's cherry picking.
"along with Indy and Willie's exchange while Indy and Short Round are locked in the spike chamber, Willie's disgust at the Monkey Brain Dinner, etc."
This is also cherry picking; I just want to point out that the above hardly constitutes "clever" humour.
"Sure Temple had some slapstick which I didn't agree with the difference is though the slapstick in Crusade was the focus"
Bull. The exact opposite is true. Temple had slapstick in virtually every scene, from start to finish. *Crusade* had "some" slapstick. Temple had a LOT of slapstick.
"It really didn't matter if Indy and Henry found the Holy Grail at not"
Justify that ridiculous claim, if you can. Finding the grail was the main focus of the entire film, and they never strayed from it.
"what was important was that we had plenty of good laughs along the way much like how it was in Airplane, the problem is though the humor in Last Crusade WASN'T FUNNY. "
Your opinion. And it isn't even a very good opinion, since you base it on complete fabrication.
"And I will never forgive the Mickey Mouse joke,"
There wasn't one.
" first of all they replaced Jesse Owens with that line which would have been far more clever"
How on earth would that have been more clever? The humour would have been exactly the same. Indy tries to pretend he's a Scottish nobleman, Indy fails, Indy goes to plan B which is to punch the guy in the face. That's the joke. Whether the butler said Mickey Mouse, Jesse Owens or Marlene Dietrich, it doesn't matter. It doesn't detract from the joke, it doesn't add to the joke, it makes no difference at all. Except, of course, if the name-drop was that of someone not yet born - in which case it would have been an anachronism. But the character of Mickey Mouse was very well known at the time. Hell, even Hitler was a fan.
"and secondly it proves that the film was trying to dumb itself down to appeal to children. "
You still haven't explained how. I, on the other hand, have explained why this is such a stupid thing to say. Besides, Temple was the one obviously aimed at children. Why do you suppose Short Round was there at all?
"They took the Jesse Owens line out because Spielberg was afraid children wouldn't understand it."
No, because Spielberg was concerned PEOPLE wouldn't get the reference. Are you accusing Spielberg of lying? If so, on what grounds?
"In Full Metal Jacket the drill sergeant said Mickey Mouse because he was trying to demean the recruits"
The drill sergeant never mentioned Mickey Mouse. It was at the very end, when the soldiers sang the Mickey Mouse song. But even if Hartman had mentioned Mickey Mouse, it is YOUR claim that the mere MENTION of Mickey Mouse is a joke, and aimed at a juvenile audience. You have no logical reason for making this claim, and it appears that Indiana Jones is the ONLY movie you subject to this peculiar logic. If you make excuses for other movies, you are inconsistent.
"It also wasn't intended to be a joke in Spectre, it was Bond's way of saying f-ck you to the guy"
It wasn't meant as a joke in Crusade either. It was the Butler's way of saying "I don't believe you for a second". Now explain why it is somehow a joke in Crusade but not in Spectre.
"never saw Leon."
There's a scene where Gary Oldman shouts, "I don't have time for this Mickey Mouse bullshit!"
"However it was clearly intended to be a joke in Last Crusade so that the 4 year olds watching would get a chuckle."
No, it very clearly was not. You have yet to be able to explain why anyone would chuckle at hearing "Mickey Mouse" in Crusade, but magically not in any other movies.
"I'm sure if I visited a local preschool I would find a copy of Last Crusade right next to the fingerpaints. "
You know, if you are the only person to hold a certain opinion, then it just may be that you are the one who is wrong. I know you desperately want Crusade to be more childish than Temple, but it simply isn't. The main difference between Temple and the Goonies in terms of maturity is that in the Goonies, ALL protagonists were children. In Temple, only one of them were.
Temple had slapstick in every scene??? Hmmm "malo, malo sewer cum, jimmini, hojo, vijo ho" then Indy gets the sh!t whipped out of him, I don't seem to remember any slapstick there. How about "Kali ma, shuti dey" then a guy gets his heart ripped out, man I could just see them incorporating that into Looney Tunes or Home Alone. Idiot. I am not cherry picking at all, Temple took itself seriously and presented a very dark and mature adventure for Indy while Crusade was just a campy attempt at comedy that fell flat on its stupid face (I must be Mickey Mouse, buahahahahahahaha)
Just watch the film, just about every stop Indy and Henry make there is some stupid joke and lets not forget Marcus and Henry's Jar Jar antics during the tank chase, I swear I thought one of them was going to blurt out "mesa in big doodoo dis time, uh oh big boomers" Crusade didn't take itself seriously, the quest didn't matter it was a very poorly written and poorly executed slapstick comedy and of course lets not forget River Phoenix's atrocious acting in the opening.
The Mickey Mouse joke is a big deal because it was thrown in there so that children would understand it. Jesse Owens at least would have been a little bit more clever because it would require the viewer to know a little bit about history and it would have been completely logical that he would say it because Jesse Owens was very well known around the time. Instead we got Mickey Mouse humor which was directed at 3-4 year olds, very immature.
"What is this Mickey Mouse sh!t", that was the time that Mickey Mouse was mentioned in Full Metal Jacket and it wasn't intended to be a joke, it was intended to be an insult much like how he constantly calls the recruits "ladies" and makes Private Pyle march with his pants down and suck his own thumb. Drill Sergeants commonly do things like that so it was an accurate depiction and I have no issue with it. Honestly I didn't even know Mickey Mouse had a song but it was probably meant to be symbolic that the soldiers could kill people and see all kinds of horrors of war and then walk off into the distance as if they weren't shaken up or had any moral conflict and just sing a silly song. That was kind of the point of the movie, the duality of man and whether Joker was going to lean towards the Peace Symbol side of his helmet or the Born to Kill side of his helmet, by the end of the film he finally got his first confirmed kill but it was a mercy kill so I guess it is left ambiguous as to which way he is going to swing. I get it that most symbolism probably flies right over your head.
"Temple had slapstick in every scene???"
I said VIRTUALLY every scene. And now, here's UltimateHippo who are going to list one or two of the extremely few scenes which did not incorporate slapstick:
"Hmmm "malo, malo sewer cum, jimmini, hojo, vijo ho" then Indy gets the sh!t whipped out of him, I don't seem to remember any slapstick there. How about "Kali ma, shuti dey" then a guy gets his heart ripped out, man I could just see them incorporating that into Looney Tunes or Home Alone."
Told you. Oh, and please keep your sewer cum to yourself. That's disgusting.
"Idiot. I am not cherry picking at all,"
Idiot, you just did.
"Temple took itself seriously and presented a very dark and mature adventure for Indy"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Opening scene: starts with a musical number before Indy shows up, and there's a whole lot of dumb blonde humour before we get to the slapstick showdown of that scene. Indy and Willie escape in spectacular and comical fashion out the window, and eventually just happen to land in the back seat of the get-away car which a kid is driving. "Holy smokes, crash landing!" And on with the show, the escape scene which is a slapstick fest. Then they arrive at the airport, and the humour doesn't exactly mature from there. There is a slight breather before the time comes for the pilots to bail out, from which point on it's all slapstick again.
At the village, a little respite from the slapstick until the morning of their departure. The circus is back in town. And that continues all the way up until they reach the outskirts of Pankot. Then it's a bit ominous with the statue wearing the finger necklace, and this is actually the first scene without any kind of humour, but once we're in the temple it all starts again. Shorty frightened by some dancers, the dinner scene, the courtship scene between Indy and Willie... There's a brief moment without humour when that Thuggee assassin tries to kill Indy, but the humour resumes immediately afterwards when Willie thinks Indy has come for romantic reasons. Actually, the humour resumes a little bit before that. "Indiana Jones, this is the night I slipped right through your fingers!" The bugs are gross, but even that is played humorously. "Oh, I broke a nail..."
The descending spikes is a tense moment, but relieved by humour when Willie enters the chamber with them and accidentally sets off the mechanism again.
Now comes the human sacrifice scene, and this is the second scene completely devoid of humour. In fact, we now have the longest break from humour until after Shorty wakes Indy up from the Sleep of Kali. So I figure we're now up to... 6-7 scenes total which do not contain any humour. But from Indy wakes up again, it's a roller coaster ride of physical humour from then on and to the very end. Seriously, there is an actual roller coaster ride there, I wasn't just speaking metaphorically.
So yeah, you'll have to cherry pick in order to find the scenes which are NOT comical.
"while Crusade was just a campy attempt at comedy that fell flat on its stupid face (I must be Mickey Mouse, buahahahahahahaha)"
That wasn't even meant to be funny, and I have no idea why you would think that. The funny bit in that scene is 1) Indy's pathetic attempt at passing as a Scottish lord, and 2) him knocking out the butler. Nothing the butler said was meant to draw laughs.
"Just watch the film"
I know both Temple and Crusade by heart, every single line.
"just about every stop Indy and Henry make there is some stupid joke and lets not forget Marcus and Henry's Jar Jar antics during the tank chase"
There were no Jar Jar antics. The only bit of physical humour in the tank on their part was Henry squirting ink in the Nazi's face (and that wasn't even particularly humorous) and Marcus bopping the same Nazi on the head with a spent shell casing. Hardly Jar Jar quality. Now, Willie, on the other hand, what with her struggle to mount that elephant, her ordeal while Indy and Shorty are playing cards, how she is thrown off the elephant or hosed down by it, how her desperate attempts to get rid of the bugs set off the booby trap mechanism again... That's more like Jar Jar.
" I swear I thought one of them was going to blurt out "mesa in big doodoo dis time, uh oh big boomers""
Oh, you mean sort of like, "Okey-dokey, Dr. Jones, hold on to your potatoes!" Or, "Ha ha, very funny! All wet!" Or, "This Nur-hachi must be a really small guy!"
See, you mentioned one thing which didn't even happen in Crusade, and I mentioned three such lines which DID happen in Temple. You won't win this duel.
"The Mickey Mouse joke is a big deal because it was thrown in there so that children would understand it."
No, so that PEOPLE would understand it.
"Jesse Owens at least would have been a little bit more clever because it would require the viewer to know a little bit about history"
It would still have communicated the exact same thing, namely that the butler didn't buy Indy's story. To be continued
Well I thought that I was going to get a mature conversation out of you but apparently I was wrong. If you even care the "malo malo sewer cum" line actually translates to "kill the pig, flay his skin", not the kind of thing you would hear in a slapstick comedy and you especially wouldn't hear that in that watered down piece of sh!t Last Crusade, your point is debunked
The rest of your post reveals more dishonesty, I didn't see a whole lot of slapstick in the exchange with Lao Che, heck Indy's friend died right in front of him and that doesn't really scream slapstick, you also would never see anything like that in Last Crusade, not to mention the guy getting impaled with a scishkobob, Indy and Willie realizing that they are going to crash and die soon, the little kid escaping from the palace and collapsing in his mothers arms, the erie scene where Indy finds the Kali statue outside the palace with human fingers sucked in blood hanging around it, the exchange between Chatter Lal and Indy, the scene where Indy frees the kids, Indy cutting the rope bridge, the list goes on. The comic relief in Temple could be a little out of tone I agree but it didn't overshadow the plot which was always the main focus and I have listed several reasons why Temple is more mature than Last Crappade.
The Mickey Mouse joke was intended to be a joke, we have some stuck up snotty butler talking about Mickey Mouse, that was the joke it wasn't the kind of thing you would hear from a snotty butler and it wasn't funny and the line was thrown in there to make children laugh because Spielberg was watering down the movie for children as he didn't want to get parental complaints. The same thing happened with Tim Burton's Batman after Batman Returns, the studio took things in a more family friendly direction with Batman Forever because Returns was way too dark and violent for children.
Henry and Marcus did have Jar Jar antics, they just bumbled around like a couple of disoriented buffoons and they accidentally took out Nazis like the whole thing with the pen (and Marcus's line afterwards was soooo childish) or the gun going off and just happening to miss everyone except the guy driving the tank, the same thing happened when Jar Jar accidentally released all of the boombas and took out the droid tanks. I always assumed that Lucas based Jar Jar Binks off of Marcus and Henry.
As far as Mickey Mouse vs. Jesse Owens neither line would have worked but at least Jesse Owens would have required the audience to think a little bit, Mickey Mouse fell flat on its stupid face and it was obviously thrown in there for the targeted 4 year old audience.
(Continued) Whether they had kept the Jesse Owens thing or not, it wouldn't have made the scene any different. "Jesse Owens" isn't "more clever" than "Mickey Mouse" just because fewer people know about Jesse Owens.
"Instead we got Mickey Mouse humor which was directed at 3-4 year olds, very immature."
A ridiculous thing to say, given that the movie wasn't marketed towards 3-4 year olds. Also, Mickey Mouse cartoons were (and are) enjoyed by adults as much as children. 3-4 year olds are actually too young for Mickey Mouse. I am assuming that you yourself are around 13-14, given that particular piece of ridiculous exaggeration. "It's so stupid and childish, it's for... it's for... 3-4 year olds! Yeah!"
Changing the name from Jesse Owens to Mickey Mouse doesn't make the scene ANY less mature. It's just part of one line, which isn't even the focus of that particular scene. All the humour was delivered by Indy in that scene - none of it by the butler.
""What is this Mickey Mouse sh!t", that was the time that Mickey Mouse was mentioned in Full Metal Jacket and it wasn't intended to be a joke, it was intended to be an insult much like how he constantly calls the recruits "ladies" and makes Private Pyle march with his pants down and suck his own thumb."
Those were meant to be jokes as well. But I do not think Hartmann ever mentioned Mickey Mouse. But assuming he did, you would HAVE to assume FMJ was made for 3-4 year olds, or you would HAVE to stop saying that about Crusade. Because "Mickey Mouse" was NOT said as a joke in Crusade, but the way you claim it was said in FMJ, it actually WOULD be a joke. And why would Hartmann, according to YOU, say "Mickey Mouse" instead of some other demeaning name (like for example Gomer Pyle)? You have no answer. Either apply your Crusade logic to Full Metal Jacket, or apply your FMJ logic to Crusade. You can't have it both ways.
"Honestly I didn't even know Mickey Mouse had a song but it was probably meant to be symbolic that the soldiers could kill people and see all kinds of horrors of war and then walk off into the distance as if they weren't shaken up or had any moral conflict and just sing a silly song."
Again, you're making excuses. And it's the Mickey Mouse Club song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmILOL55xP0
"I get it that most symbolism probably flies right over your head."
And excuses. And excuses.
Last Crusade was marketed towards 3-4 year olds, are you seriously telling me that stupid circus train chase or the Mickey Mouse joke or Marcus/Henry's Jar Jar antics were thrown in there for adults? No they were thrown in there for little kids which was the targeted audience.
You don't even understand Full Metal Jacket or you don't know what you're talking about. Right before Pyle commits suicide in the bathroom Hartmen yells "what is this Mickey Mouse shit", that was the only thing that could even possibly be interpreted as a Mickey Mouse joke and he was clearly trying to demean his recruits which drill sergeants do all the time. Fine, good for you, Mickey Mouse has a song that doesn't change anything and I explained why that might be appropriate for Full Metal Jacket, it showed that the horrors of war were not affected the men anymore as they are just able to march off singing about Mickey Mouse after killing people and watching others be killed, it symbolized the affects that war has on the soul.
You need to just stick with your little Last Crusade movie, I don't think you are smart enough for films like Temple of Doom or Full Metal Jacket. Maybe someone can make a fan edit for you when Henry stands up and yells "mesa gots za holy grail, yousa in big doodoo dis time"
"Last Crusade was marketed towards 3-4 year olds"
No one can be taken seriously when they lie like a 4-year old. If they marketed it towards 3-4 year olds, they fucked up big time, as they were quite happy with the PG-13 rating - which is a HIGHER rating than for Raiders and Temple, both of which were just rated PG. Not that this means much at all, other than the fact that Crusade was obviously meant for the same demographic as Raiders. Temple was clearly aimed at a younger audience (hence the focus on children, and a child sidekick). You keep claiming it was "dark", but it wasn't "darker" than the Goonies were - which took a lot of direct inspiration from Temple.
As for your rambling about Mickey Mouse... Hey, I AGREE with you on FMJ. I'm not the one saying it makes it a joke for children. YOU are. Except you don't for FMJ or Spectre, because... you actually have no reason. You decide that for CRUSADE, and for Crusade alone, the mere mention of Mickey Mouse means it's for children. It's absolutely ridiculous, and you have firmly convinced me there is something very, very wrong with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2cPuwpqTg
Go to 2:37, it wasn't intended to be a joke, it was intended to be an insult. R.E. Ermy was a real drill sergeant and therefore he improvised many of his lines based on his experiences as a drill instructor, therefore it wasn't a joke.
The Mickey Mouse comment in Crusade was also an insult, smarty-pants. Paraphrased he was saying, "you must be some kind of idiot to think I would fall for that". And it is the EXACT same way it was used in Spectre. But you want to hate on Crusade, for god knows what reason. So far you haven't presented any valid ones - not while you are hypocritically fawning all over Temple.
shareThe Mickey Mouse joke was intended to be a joke and it was clear evidence that Spielberg was dumbing down the movie so he didn't get complaints from parents that it was too scary for their preschoolers, it was a total sell out and it ruined the franchise in my opinion. I have deleted Last Crusade from my collection, as far as I'm concerned Spielberg and Lucas made a movie called Raiders of the Lost Ark and then gave us a backstory with the prequel Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and yeah that's all they did as far as I'm concerned. There was nothing mature about Last Crusade, the entire thing was campy and played for laughs. I did not think that Temple was as good as Raiders and one of the reasons was that some of the humor in Temple didn't work but at least Temple was story centered, at least Temple took itself seriously it just had some comic relief that didn't work. Last Crusade was more of a parody that fell flat on its stupid face
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
- Everything from here on is fan fiction as far as I'm concerned-
3. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
"The Mickey Mouse joke was intended to be a joke"
No it wasn't. I have challenged you to explain what's supposed to be so funny about it time and time again, and you have refused to answer.
"I have deleted Last Crusade from my collection"
This says a great deal about you. It doesn't say a thing about Crusade, however, as the ratings speak for themselves.
No it just says that Last Crusade didn't meet my approval and that I didn't care for it.
shareIf that were the case, you wouldn't have removed it from the collection. Kingdom doesn't meet with my approval anyway, but it's still in my collection. None of the Star Wars prequels meet with my approval, but I still have them in my collection. Not a huge fan of the last couple Alien films either, but still in my collection. See, I don't have the same pathological rage that you do.
shareKingdom was a letdown, the Star Wars Prequels weren't as good as the OT but certainly far better than Kingdom/Crusade and Episodes 7-8 (Episode 3 is actually on par with the OT). Alien and Aliens were great, Alien 3 is better on repeat viewings and the Assembly Cut is actually quite good (not great but good). Alien Resurrection was just too damn weird.
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