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SHOULD THIS SHOW BE COLORIZED?


There has been quite a stir made about the colorization of a couple of episodes of I LOVE LUCY.
Personally, I hated Ted Turner's concept of "colorization", but I understand that it's improved greatly since then.

It would be interesting if this show could be colorized.
I'd like to see what the sets and costumes would look like in color.

Let me know what you think, OK?

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You can see what they look like in color if you purchase the season 2 Blu-ray set. A good portion of the episode "It May Look Like a Walnut" was colorized and can be accessed through the special features section of the disc menu.

I'm not a big fan of colorization, but I must say it looks pretty darn good and it does seem to add a somewhat modern feel to this early 60's B&W sitcom.

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I’ve forgotten the exact name of the program offhand, but several years ago (maybe 10 years by now) there was a program aired what featured all the surviving cast in character many years beyond the 1960s.

According to the trivia for this show, the set (primarily the house in New Rochelle) is the same one that was used in the original series. (Apparently they just packed everything up as it was and put it in storage after the show was cancelled.)

When the program starts out, it’s in black and white, but after a moment or two fades into natural color.

Aha! The name of the program was “The Dick Van Dyke Show Revisited.” It’s on youtube in parts, beginning at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCPrkO_O2M

As for colorization, I'm inclined to say "Leave it alone." It'd be a little like colorizing the original Twilight Zone series. There's just something fundamentally wrong it seems to me with seeing Rod Serling in anything but black and white! 

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Well, I wouldn't want to see THE TWILIGHT ZONE, or ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS, or even PERRY MASON colorized.
But those were dramas, and part of their appeal was their "film noir" photography.

But this show is a sitcom, and one shot on a shoestring budget, too.
IMO, colorization would be an improvement.

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How would it be an improvement? What exactly about the show would necessitate colorization?

Let's be bad guys.

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I don't see the need for colorization, either. It certainly isn't necessary for a comedy; Laurel and Hardy, the Marx Brothers, classics ranging from "Bringing Up Baby" (in the 30s) to "Dr. Strangelove" (in the 60s) - all in black and white, and all hilarious.

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I'd just like to see what it would look like in color!
Jeez!!!

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I'd just like to see what it would look like in color!
Jeez!!!







Why are you asking for opinions if you don't want to hear them? These are the exact words from your original post:

"Let me know what you think, OK?"

We're just telling you what we think.

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I never asked for my head to be bitten off!
There's something wrong with the population of the US; there seem to be SO many angry people ready to explode at the slightest opportunity.
Personally,I blame the impossibly fast pace of life today, especially in this technical era.
I honestly wish that people would "slow down and smell the flowers".

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I never asked for my head to be bitten off!




Why are you getting so defensive? Why all the exclamation points?

No one is "biting your head off." Three people have stated there's no need to colorize "The Dick Van Dyke Show" - that's all.

And remember, you ASKED for opinions.

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If CBS broadcasted in color in the 50s like NBC than this show would be in color from day one. Also color is reality not black and white.

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I believe it was in 1966 or 1967 that the networks ruled that all their shows will be filmed in color.
Some shows didn't have the budget to do that, so--like THE PATTY DUKE SHOW--they were cancelled, even though they had decent ratings.

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The Dick Van Dyke Show Revisited https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGg3x7oxTds (full show)

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I would love to see the DVD show colorized. As another poster mentioned, it wasn't filmed in black and white for artistic reasons. It was because they were too cheap to spring for color. I think it would look great in color.

To all those who seem to get mad over such things, it's not like they would be destroying the original shows. Any DVD sold would probably have both versions on it. Let the viewer choose.

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I'm just a patsy!

Ha! Made you look!!

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Personally, I would love to see DVD in color! Just to see them how the audience saw them. To see how their clothes really looked, etc. One time I saw I Love Lucy in color, couldn't believe how red her hair really was! Always saw her as a redhead, even in black and white, but didn't know how red, LOL

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This subject comes up on this board from time to time. Interestingly, 1966 (when the DVD show ended) was the year a lot of previously B&W shows went to color. Some say that if it continued, it might have gone to color too.

The answer to your question is almost unanimously "No" from hardcore DVD fans. I don't think I would like to see the entire series colorized. But I think it would be fun to see certain episodes (Christmas, The Walnuts, etc.) in color.

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You'd like to see the walnut episode colorized? Here ya go!

https://youtu.be/ZfW3Hurm6tg

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I'm just a patsy!

Ha! Made you look!!

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Doesn't seem so bad to me. It looks good.

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It doesn't matter if it's technologically perfect, colorization is wrong.

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It's OK if they colorized it to me.
If you want to watch the black and white just turn down the color saturation.
But then again, I grew up with B&W TV as a kid.
Color was a big improvement.
And to tell the truth I cannot believe the TV I bought a year ago, it is a LCD 4K
which I cannot believe how fantastic is it, it is a wonder to me almost very day.
over 16 times the resolution and thousands of times more colors.
I love to watch the nature shows on it.

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It's OK if they colorized it to me.
If you want to watch the black and white just turn down the color saturation.


Exactly, or simply watch the B&W broadcasts/streaming/hard media versions.

I'm as conservative as anyone can be, but colorizing old movies and TV shows doesn't harm the originals so I don't see the problem. It's not as if a dictator decreed that all existing B&W movies be colorized and the originals burned. The originals will always be there.

I wouldn't watch Young Frankenstein or Schindler's List in color if they colorized them, but I also wouldn't deny anyone else's right to see them colorized. As long as the originals aren't harmed, I'm fine.

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Should it be colorized? NO, no and no!

Having gotten that out of the way, if someone wants to colorize this show, go right ahead but I won't be watching.

I have the entire series on DVD and I have no desire to see it in color.

Black and white is a legitimate art form just like color is. Now if the van Dye Show had been filmed in color that would be one thing. But trying to change one art form into another is where I draw the line.

But if some people want to see it in color, go right ahead.

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I agree. Filming in B&W means making artistic choices specifically for B&W. If someone needs to have a colorized version in order to enjoy quality writing & acting, then let them do so by all means. But they're missing out on a lot by staying within their narrow comfort zone, if you ask me. (And I know that nobody did.)

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When Carl Reiner died, CBS aired two classic episodes of "Dick Van Dyke" in his honor, and I thought they looked awful. I remember being shocked how bad Ted Turner's horrible versions of "Casablanca" and other classic films looked with colorization back in the 80's, and, despite what people are saying here, the technology has not progressed so much that the eye can't tell B&W has been tampered with. There's something still "off" about it that doesn't look right. You people can stick with colorized versions of B&W movies and TV all you want. I'll stick with the originals.

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Colorization has gotten far better with time. I do remember finding early efforts almost disturbing. Watching a person's fake orange-tan facial color suddenly jump into their white hair and back was so distracting.

The latest attempts are so good that unless someone didn't know they were originally in B&W, they might miss the fact that it's been colorized.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/2f/99/722f992242f08126273b5ed208684642.jpg

You people can stick with colorized versions of B&W movies and TV all you want. I'll stick with the originals.


I agree. No B&W copies harmed. Those that want to watch the original B&W versions are free to do so, and those who prefer the colorized versions can do so as well.




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I'd like to see what the sets and costumes would look like in color.

Be advised that black & white shows used colors and were lit for and would show up good in black & white.

"Colorized," which has greatly improved, in no way gives an accurate depiction of the colors that were originally used. It would be at the whim and ability of the colorist.

Example: Going back to classic film, Bette Davis' RED dress in the
black & white "Jezebel" was actually a dark brown -- as it showed up better on film.

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