Clearly we are speaking of the same reality, the question is, which opinion is more supported by the facts.
We both agree that Trump almost certainly enjoyed the commpany and attentions of groupies and golddiggers.
That would completely explain he words on the All Access tape. He correctly realized that the women in his life were treating him differently becasue of his fame and wealth.
YOU believe that IN ADDITIONS to the groupies and golddiggers who "LET" Trump have his way with them, that he also forced himself on other women.
To support that you point to the accusations made against him.
My counter to that, is if he was regularly raping women back when he was rich and famous, BUT not yet political,
that they would have reported it THEN, whether in pursuit of JUSTICE, or depending on the woman, a payoff (more golddiggers here than innocent victims)
BUT, in REALITY, these accusations were NOT made, until Trump became a political figure thus drawing the ire of a large faction of the Establishment and the more progressive population.
That fully supports MY opinion, while is strongly clashes with yours.
Logically speaking, this is a very weak anti-Trump argument. The supporting evidence is weak as shit.
It does however, fit into a scenario where the plan is to just SPAM negative talking points, until people stop trying to counter then thus creating the false illusion of crediblity to the claims.
Which, is an effective yet morally wrong thing to do.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Surely you understand that many women do not report rape for various reasons? Why does this fact not apply to those who accuse Trump?
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
Sure I understand that.
But, in this case, the complete lack of charges BEFORE he became political,
supports MY scenario, ie of him being swarmed by groupies and golddiggers, and enjoying it,
instead of yours, of him being a "proud rapist" and just never getting caught, or even charged.
You CAN'T just look at a man not accused of rape for decades, and just assume that that is becasue his victims choose to not report.
Trump is a politicians with real flaws, and real policies. That are clearly visible and part of the publc record.
If you want to oppose him based on his actual flaws and/or his policies, that... would make a lot more sense than on these, very, very weak and suspicious looking accusations.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Oh yes I can. Oh yes I did. :)
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
I stand corrected, you CAN do that.
But, you certainly shouldn't.
I've never really known anyone that was FAMOUS, but I've known a few rich people, and a few very attractive people.
The world is a very different place for them. They are going though hte world on EASY mode.
Trump? Tall, famous billionaire? He was playing on GOD MODE, and he... at least he had the sense to KNOW that it was unusual.
And he bragged about it to some young men that ate it up.
If you're a very ... moral or prudish person and want to judge him on being a male slut, that would be completely fair.
But, that's as far as it REASONABLY goes.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Trump has slipped through the fingers of justice long enough. He can reap what he sows
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
OR, he's a problem for the powerful and they are using every dirty trick in the book to try to bring him down.
And you are supporting it, becasue it serves YOUR political agenda too.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Trump is also one of the powerful. He still has influence over the GOP in Congress.
My political agenda includes the right to keep and bear arms, something Trump has demonstrated he opposes.
My agenda also includes promoting politicians with some amount of integrity, something Trump is completely lacking in.
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
Yet, you seem oddly relaxed about the likely hood that poweful forces are abusing the court system to take out a threat to them....
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
I think the American criminal justice system has been allowing Trump to slide on charges that he should have faced long before now.
Just as they are allowing Pence and Biden to slide on mishandling of classified documents.
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
But biden and pence are still sliding.
Trump, despite his billions, and his influence, seems to be facing an oddly hostile justice system.
And that's a violation of his rights. And the rights of his supporters.
He has a right to an impartial and fair justice system, and his supporter have the right to their chosen representative.
This targetting of Trump for political purposes is a real wound to our democratic system.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Why should billions and influence matter? Trump's actions indicate he probably violated the law. The justice system gets rather hostile when people do that.
Trump is getting more than fair treatment. I don't think I would be free to run around the country while campaigning for office if I was caught with as many classified documents as Trump was. I would be in jail awaiting trial.
Trump is being targeted for criminal purposes.
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
You pointed out how others in the ruling class get a pass. Trump is not getting a pass.
That is why I mentioned it.
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Ranb (7956)
a month ago
Pence and Biden were not as stupid as Trump. While they did mishandle classified documents, they did not refuse to hand them over when requested.
Trump was stupid. All he had to do was comply with the law.
Like Chris Rock says, "Think of the laws as hints".
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Corbell (9597)
a month ago
Biden got a pass on one crime BECASUE THE INVESTIGATOR said he was stupid.
The Feds in these cases find excuses to give who they want a pass, and excuses to bring the hammer down on people they want to bring the hammer down on.
At this point in time, only willful blindness can explain your NOT seeing it.
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