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Ralph Northam won’t resign as Virginia governor over blackface scandal

posted 5 years ago by AckbartheHutt (1370)
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https://www.vox.com/2019/2/6/18213902/ralph-northam-resign-justin-fairfax-mark-herring-blackface-virginia-governor

Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax would have succeeded him — but a college professor has accused Fairfax of sexually assaulting her in 2004, an accusation that the Washington Post appeared to find credible

Attorney General Mark Herring — who would have been the next in the line of succession after Fairfax — had revealed on Wednesday morning that he had also appeared in blackface at a college party in the 1980s, according to the Associated Press.

Things aren't going very well for the liberals in Virginia. I am surprised that doggie hasn't posted this yet.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I was too busy reading this:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-woman-accuses-virginia-lieutenant-governor-sexual-assault/story?id=60948800

Now I know this story won't anger the right wing at all, since accusations such as this are quickly dismissed as 'fake news' (see: T-rump, Kavanaugh, Roy Moore), but I find this appalling, to say the least. What say republikkans?

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 5 years ago

I am just hoping that they thoroughly investigate this for years. Should be interesting if the dems support the women or the men.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I don’t recall you ever hoping they would thoroughly investigate the claims against T-rump, Kavanaugh or Moore for years. As a matter of fact, I don’t recall you hoping for any thorough investigation at all.

Why the sudden change of heart? Do tell...

[–] Filmtenk2 (3375) 5 years ago

He's got you Ack.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

By the short ones. Notice how silent he is?

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

Except you should already know who the dems support. They support the women just like they did against Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

...And T-rump, Kavanaugh, and Roy Moore.

On the other hand, the republicans supported these men, and called the allegations of the women 'fake news'.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Kavanaugh is a scumbag and isn't fit to sit on the Supreme Court, but how the hell can you compare an attempted rape that occurred nearly forty years ago, to the multiple, possibly hundreds, of actual rapes committed by Cosby and Weinstein over several decades?

And the evidence against Trump is about as compelling as the evidence against Clinton (which is to say, they're both probably guilty of various sex offences). The only difference is that Clinton is a shrewd liberal who knows how to play the game and keep his mouth shut instead of openly bragging about 'pussy grabbing'.

Much like Dominic Strauss-Kahn, a French leftist who, let's not forget, raped a black maid in a New York hotel, liberals have remained appallingly silent over the abuse committed by powerful white 'liberals' towards less privileged women.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And the evidence against Trump is about as compelling as the evidence against Clinton...

First wife Ivanna Trump testified in her divorce deposition that her husband Donald RAPED her at the end of their marriage (after physically assaulting her). Is that enough compelling evidence for you?

For the record: T-rump's defense is that he was still legally married to her, and there is no such thing as 'marital rape', so he could not have raped her. Compelling enough?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I believe Trump raped his first wife, Ivana. However, Ivana later retracted her accusation, and technically speaking, marital rape was not recognised by all fifty US states until as late as 1993.

Yes, that is disgusting, and morally constitutes no defence for those men who continued to sexually abuse their wives prior to that date, but that may be what Trump means when he said there was 'no such thing as marital rape' (during the period he was married to Ivana).

But, returning to Clinton, why are the multiple accusations against him less compelling than the one, since retracted, accusation made by Ivana (and, like I say, I do believe Trump raped Ivana - my point isn't Trump's 'innocence', it's Clinton's guilt).

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Same reason why the dozens of accusations against T-rump are less compelling than Ivannas testimony that he raped her?

BTW, I do find it suspicious that she retracted her testimony before the divorce was finalized? Was that part of a deal in negotiations with a settlement or child custody?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And Clinton...

...oh, maybe not...

And Weinstein and Cosby (was Cosby even liberal? He wasn't always yelling at younger black men to pull up their pants) aren't politicians, and, besides, look how msny decades they were allowed to get away with their sh*t whilst the likes of Meryl Streep stayed silent (not my accusation by the way, but that of one of the victims, Rose McGowan).

Hollywood and the DNC's complicity in the victimisation of these women should horrify any feminist and progressive, myself included.

[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 5 years ago

But Clinton was actually impeached, a fact people seem to forget.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

What is your point?

The Democrats chose to acquit him, along with ten Republicans, despite his blatant lies over the Lewinsky affair.

[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 5 years ago

Just like to remind people that Clinton was a democrat.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Thanks for the reminder. Sometimes it's hard to tell...

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 5 years ago

No democrat will ever admit that though.

[–] Borat (658) 5 years ago

He should just identify as transracial and get off scott free. if any bozo can became a women because they say so then why cant u just say ur a afro american?

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

Holy crap this entire state just needs a do-over. At this point the dog catcher may end up as governor.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

Well, Richmond was the capitol of the Confederacy...a fact that I'm sure a lot of the descendents of the traitorous secessionists who pledged allegiance to that cause are still damned proud of.

The only thing that makes this whole situation seem warped to me is that this Governor and Lt. Gov are both DEMOCRATS...and they're refusing to budge in the face of overwhelming condemnation and calls to step down. Would be par-for-course behavior for Republicans, but Dems? Trump's missing an opportunity--he should offer a welcoming branch to these guys and urge them to switch parties; they'd be embraced by all the racist and patriarchial Republican crackers in VA.

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 5 years ago

Rut ro.

If these guys were Republicans, they would be thoroughly investigated by Mueller to see if they gave back the correct change at their childhood lemonade stand.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

If these guys were Republicans, they would be thoroughly investigated by Mueller to see if they gave back the correct change at their childhood lemonade stand.

Yet Mueller did not do a thorough investigation of the sexual assault accusations against T-rump, Kavanaugh, or Moore (for starters). So that blows your theory out of the water.

Makes you wonder - if sexual accusations against T-rump helped make him president, and sexual accusations against Kavanaugh made him a Supreme Court Justice - then this should do wonders for Lt. Guv Fairfax's career ?

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

Oh come on. Not even you are that stupid. You know damn well Mueller has nothing to do with investigations outside of Trump's campaign yet you are so happy to parrot this kind of junk. I kind of get it though. No Trump supporter will ever call you out on it. Not even Destinata.

Its obvious you say this kind of stuff just to get a response from the opposition. Not because you actually believe it.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

You don’t mean Mueller the REPUBLICAN appointed by a REPUBLICAN to investigate an erstwhile Democrat who became an Independent before then becoming a Republican because alt-right morons made the Republicans stupid enough to believe what he was selling?

That Mueller?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

LOL! Only if he's innocent of any wrongdoing.

[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 5 years ago

VA delegate threatens impeachment if Fairfax won't resign

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/09/virginia-delegate-patrick-hope-articles-of-impeachment-fairfax-sot-vpx.cnn

Looks like things are getting worse for the Democrats. Meanwhile Pelosi remains silent.

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

Silence is not support though. Trump won't weigh on it either. Trump could pressure an investigation more than Pelosi could but he just sits back and says democrats are hurting Virginia and that he'll bigly get their votes in 2020.

Meanwhile the pressure for him to resign is coming from republicans and democrats rather equally. The problem we are all having is that Northam and Fairfax are playing the Kavanaugh strategy of deny, deny, deny. It worked for Kavanaugh so now its going to be the standard. Except when democrats do it there will still be pressure from their own party to resign. Republicans will never have the balls to condemn their own.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

It's interesting that nobody in the news or newspapers ever brought up the singer Al Jolson who sang in blackface back in the 1940s. He was never criticized for this.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 5 years ago

Everyone knows that this behavior was common in the era you mentioned. It's not relevant today because most people who engaged in it that long ago are likely either dead or long retired. Why it matters in this case is not so much that Northam did it in the 80s, but that he never acknowledged it and apologized for it before the facts were revealed. Funny thing about the past...it has a way of creeping back into the present.

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 5 years ago

See, I'm conflicted.

As with ANYONE, I don't want him fired or pressured to resign over something that isn't a crime. It's STUPID, yes and immature and incredibly ill-advised but he could have owned it or ridden it out.

But, with how he handled it? Nope. He's ill-suited for the job and should go.

Just like Kavanaugh. If we take the findings of the investigations that were done as conclusive, then there's enough reasonable doubt to not presume him guilty. However, given how he handled his appearance in front of the committee? Nope. That man is not suited to sit on the Supreme Court. Based on THAT, he should not have been confirmed.