Wish she had more posts - Gwen Stefani Discussion

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I recall when No Doubt came out in the 90's they seemed a little different but all the stuff she did solo went against that image. I agree, she is just a follower now.

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[–] Kowalski (59231) 5 years ago

NO DOUBT HAD ONE GREAT ALBUM..THEIR DEBUT TRAGIC KINGDOM...AMAZING ALBUM...THAT FAME THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM TRAGIC KINGDOM POISONED GWEN'S WELL..SUDDENLY POP AND HIP HOP AND ALL KINDS OF NON NO DOUBT STYLE STRANGLED THE QUALITY OUT OF THE BAND...THEY BREAK UP AND SHE GOES SOLO...SUPER DIVA PRINCESS SOLO...IF YOU WANT TO SEE GWEN STEFANI BEING ANYTHING BUT A SCHILL FOR COSMETICS AND A TV PERSONALITY,YOULL NEED A TIME MACHINE.

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[–] janelsenor (2042) 5 years ago

The Beacon Street Collection is better than Tragic Kingdom, IMO. That said, I really feel Gwen's brother was the heart of No Doubt. He left just before Tragic Kingdom hit it big, and the band sucked after that.

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[–] Kowalski (59231) 5 years ago

BEACON STREET IS GOOD.TRAGIC KINGDOM IS BETTER.ERIC WAS AWESOME.I HALF AGREE WITH YOUR POINT.I BELIEVE HIS ABSENCE BOTH FROM THE BAND AND FROM GUIDING GWEN SO TO SPEAK ARE THE CULPRITS.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

Gwen should release albums more often. I really love her solo records

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[–] breathfromanother (749) 5 years ago

Which of her solo records is your favorite Irina? I like The Sweet Escape and This Is What the Truth Feels Like, but L.A.M.B. is tops for me.

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[–] IrinaOma (648) 5 years ago

Thanks for your question. I really like all 3 albums plus her Christmas record but L.A.M.B. is special to me. I love all the songs. I wish Serious and The Real Thing were released as singles too. L.A.M.B. is my favorite album by Gwen but my favorite song is 4 In the Morning from The Sweet Escape

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[–] breathfromanother (749) 5 years ago

You’re welcome and thanks for the answer. :) I wish The Real Thing had been a single too. 4 In the Morning is a good track too. Early Winter is my personal fave from The Sweet Escape. Love the video.

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[–] chilone (17296) 5 years ago

She's definitely milked the fake blond thing WAAAAYY too long. Didn't look good then and doesn't look good now.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

I just saw her with Kelly C on a commercial for their show. I don't watch any reality TV, but for some reason i thought she stood out with having a very interesting face and maybe a punky girl attitude. But as stated above she seems to have settled into minor celebrity-hood and is just coasting. I have no idea what her solo albums sound like. I'm a little on the old side so I don't imagine I would be the target audience.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Gwen Stefani was always a shallow phony and poseur who begged, borrowed and stole from other sources to craft her so-called "unique" look/persona. Check out the movie, Tank Girl, or look up some screenshots to see where she got her entire "I'm Just a Girl" image from (the platinum blonde hair, cherry red lips and punkish attire):

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ed1fa85849421bdfab4c6522f76c5e5/tumblr_n0jm65sY5g1r2ndk4o2_500.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KytOj9obiaM/Uql0gCAamaI/AAAAAAAACJ4/WzqFUGoCS68/s1600/lori-petty-tank-girl.jpg

She was Lady Gaga before Gaga (another poseur). So, looking at how much she "changed" after No Doubt never surprised me. Neo-ska/neo-punk was really popular, so she rode that wave. Then hip hop and pop diva became popular, and she rode that wave.

She's almost an icon for the millennial generation

No Doubt is solidly GenX, not millennial. Millennials came of age in the 2000s. Not the 1990s.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Yeah, I'm not so good with keeping generational nick names straight. When you say "came of age" what does that mean? Becoming a teenager or a young adult? Born in the 2000s?
I'm not surprised at your characterization of GS. She's probably from Southern Cal. I don't have many young favorites so I was hoping she had something going on. Apparently not.
I will comment, however, that most rock and pop stars borrow from previous artists in order to fashion an image.
And Tank Girl was a weird movie I want to like but I find it hard to. Great idea but not executed very well.

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[–] charliekelly (1018) 5 years ago

"I don't have many young favorites so I was hoping she had something going on."

What are you, 90? lol She'll be 50 in a few days. Not that 50 is old, but I definitely wouldn't call it young.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

I never bothered to check her age. I'm younger than Grace Slick but older than Gwen.

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[–] charliekelly (1018) 5 years ago

Heyyyy, now you're talkin'! Classic rock is definitely more my style. Like the user above, I liked "Tragic Kingdom" when I was young, but nothing really after that. No Doubt definitely lost me with the reggae/ska stuff.

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[–] janelsenor (2042) 5 years ago

Tragic Kingdom and earlier is when they were all about the reggae/ska thing. It was the albums after that when they gave that up....

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[–] charliekelly (1018) 5 years ago

Well, I guess I meant songs like "Hey, Baby" - whatever that genre/era is called, I don't care for it. You're right, when I think back, I guess there were horns and ska type sounds in TK. And, to be fair, when I say "I liked" it, I mean I didn't mind when the video came on MTV. I don't really know much about them, reggae or ska, as you might be able to tell lol.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I will comment, however, that most rock and pop stars borrow from previous artists in order to fashion an image.

What previous artists did Elvis Presley model himself after? The Beatles? David Bowie? The Stones? Michael Jackson? Bruce Springsteen? Give us some examples.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Elvis was thought to have learned his moves and sound from previous Black performers. It was scandalous at the time.
The Beatles started off as leather wearing street hoods, which was popular at the time, until a manager groomed them into the Fab Four, and I doubt they blazed that trail by themselves. Stones grew their hair long when it became fashionable to do so. Bowie was a real visionary, but others like Marc Bolan, Mott The Hoople and Lou Reed were similar back then. Bruce was another leather clad rocker, straight out of Rebel Without A Cause.
This is all common knowledge.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

This is all common knowledge.

You're not posting common knowledge. You're posting conjecture.

None of those acts you mentioned got their styles from a previous act. Many of them just dressed in the style that was popular in underground scenes and subcultures. For example, in the late 1950s/early 1960s when the "rocker" subculture was popular, the Beatles dressed rockers. When mod was popular, they dressed as mods. The Stones didn't grow their hair because of The Beatles. They were part of the mod/swinging London scene of the 1960s, and might have been influenced by Beatnik culture, too, since that was the first subculture where men started hair past their ears. Same thing with The Who; they based their look on 1960s mod. Boy George was part of the New Romantics scene, where people dressed in very flamboyant outfits.

Other acts had stylists who crafted their look. For example, Madonna worked closely with Gauthier to create her signature outfits (like the cone bra), and David Bowie worked with a designer (I forgot her name, but it might have been Viviene Westwood or someone who was part of the early glam scene in London).

All of this is not the same as what Gwen Stefani and Lady Gaga did, which was to cynically take looks verbatim from other acts or scenes they were never part of or didn't care about, and then pass themselves as being original and authentic expressions of that scene. Stefani was never truly a "riot grrrrl" (which is what the Tank Girl character was). She just saw that the riot grrrl trend in music and pop culture was really popular and just Tank Girl to pass herself off as one.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Elvis was unique but he certainly had influences. Bill Haley, Ray Charles and Little Richard all had a profound impact on his style and musical direction.

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[–] ProductionNow (1072) 5 years ago

Yes, and phonies are not rampant worldwide/statewide, but in "so. California". Have you been to the very very large area known as so CA?
--sigh

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Okay, now you are nit-picking. I ran into a young lady who had some silly bling look about her and she said where we live people are much less concerned if they are wearing the latest trendy styles compared to where she lived in So Cal. If you think every generalization is worthy of scorn, you must have a busy schedule.

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[–] ProductionNow (1072) 5 years ago

Again, have you traveled, lived, studied the So. CA area, where Hollywood is a fraction of the population? It's fine to generalize sometimes since many generalizations are true, so I'm not really not nit-picking. I did not say EVERY generalization is a scam.
Great, you ran into "one lady" who said such and such.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Thanks for your thoughtful input.

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[–] ProductionNow (1072) 5 years ago

Please, you're being disingenuous with that comment.
Btw, I value a person more who is shallow/superficial on the outside--rather than the inside, where it counts (and I dont' follow this Gwen-person)

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Well then please allow me to be disingenuous. If it serves your purpose.

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[–] wearsalan (5554) 5 years ago

And she started hanging around with those harajuku girls because she thought it was cool.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Changed my mind. DON'T wish she had more posts.

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