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What was the exact evidence to convict him?


I didn't follow this too closely.

Was it just words, again, from alleged victims or was there anything actually physical that leaves no doubt he had non consensual sex with women forcing himself into them?

There should always be in 100% of every rape accusation physical evidence before it can be allowed in a courtroom.
Words alone should not be enough since they are not enough to prove actions.

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I don't know why people keep saying that he was convicted of rape solely based on the allegations of these women.

That's not what happens in a trial, there has to be a lot of evidence to even HAVE a trial. You can't just accuse someone of rape and get a trial.

• There was DNA evidence. Masterson's DNA was found on underwear after assault charges were filed.

• Text messages: Masterson sent text messages to some of the victims that were incriminating, such as messages apologizing for his behavior or asking them not to tell anyone what had happened.

• Testimony from other witnesses: Other witnesses testified in court about seeing Masterson with the victims on the nights of the alleged assaults, and about hearing or seeing Masterson engage in abusive behavior.

• There were many other prior reports of abuse and rape that supported the accusations.

• At least 5 women reported his behavior to the church of Scientology who actively buried them as was proven in court.

• The personal testimonies of the victims matched up with the timeline of events and prior behavior despite them not knowing of each other.

A jury convicted him which means that 12 people had to all agree that he had done this.

I don't blame guys for being freaked out if you think that he was just convicted on the victims claims alone but that is not how it works so rest at ease. He's a monster.

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That puts things into perspective, thanks.

What I noticed is that most articles about these things often skip these details, which of course doesn't help and only fuels the idea that convictions like these might be fishy.

If the above is accurate, his conviction seems adequate and he got what was coming for him.

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People keep saying that he was sentenced to 30 years in prison for 15 year old rape allegations. That just doesn't happen, thankfully.

It's also a major reason why the church of Scientology is being taken to court which I will be interested to see. I'm not sure how that will play out but I hope that there will be many convictions in that case. It has been a long time coming.

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I think you've nailed it. I think the sentence does seem a little out of the ordinary, but also justified. I think that the courts were sending a message to the church as well. They hushed this up. The women came forward, but were silenced by the church. It would be nice if priests could get similar sentences.

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Seriously. Lets put the Catholic church on trial right now and start locking up those priests! The unfortunate thing is that a lot of those priests will never be tried 'because' we only have the victim's statements as proof. There aren't text messages or DNA or witnesses so those disgusting crimes go unpunished.

I'm glad he got 30 years. It's time we send a big message that it doesn't matter who you are, if you abuse people, it's over.

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Only the jury has to agree. Who are the other 18? Or are there 30 people on rape case juries?

Tens of millions agree that Coors is good beer. Consensus doesn't mean jack shit.

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It makes sense that you would attempt to defend him.

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"A jury convicted him which means that 12 people had to all agree that he had done this."

Except that didn't happen in the first trial, the jury was deadlocked. I don't think this case is as simple as you make it out to be. The difference between the 1st and 2nd trial was that in the 2nd, the prosecutors argued Masterson drugged the victims, which there was never any proof of apart from their testimonies which had changed.

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Where are you getting your information?

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msm

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You can’t find a link?

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Yeah I can but I looked it up 2 days ago and I'm not your errand boy, I am sure you could find it without much trouble.

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Bullshit.

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Yeah okay, you caught me, I completely made it up for no reason, must have imagined seeing it. smh.

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His profile pic on imdb.
That is enough to charge him with murder.

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What was the exact evidence to convict him?"

Heresay on the part of the victims so to speak along with this being the "Oprah #Me Too Justice System" where you really don't need credible evidence.. You don't.. It's almost like they're trying to do away with Males basically

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You don't need credible evidence in a trial with a jury? What world do you live in?

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What is "credible" anyway? Eyewitness testimony was for a long time considered "credible" until innocent people started being put behind bars.

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Why do you want him to be outraged so much? He’s a scumbag, he’s where he belongs and it’s not a mistake.

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"Why do you want him to be outraged so much?"
Don't know what you're talking about.

"He’s a scumbag, he’s where he belongs and it’s not a mistake."

Whatever you say.

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