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Drew's Conservative Message to Feminists


I was really impressed with what Drew said in this Stephen Colbert interview. This is some of the best advice you can give to young women or anyone. Apparently this created a minor controversy among the SJW social media crowd at the time (2018). Even in the comments on the YouTube video they're bashing her for not buying into feminist victim culture. The message she's espousing is something every conservative and libertarian would agree with.

Colbert:
"Now we're in a moment of female empowerment in Hollywood, talk about diversity and inclusion. What do you think of this present moment we're in right now?"

Barrymore:
"I think it's phenomenal and overdue and wonderful and...the only thing I ever have a personal thing about is tone. I don't want anything to have a tone of anger. I know people say anger's healthy. I have a dark side that's completely, you know, a huge chasm. But I've never been an angry person. I never expected people to hand me anything and I never expected them to believe in me. I had to create enough homework and data to show and prove to them. So, I want—I hope—for people that they won't do it with anger and expectation, because what you really have to do is prove that you are capable, and what this important time is about is those doors opening for those people."

When I was a woman—or a girl—I mean I started Flower Films when I was 19, I knew walking in these rooms that these guys were like, who is this woman...but we walked in and we presented ourselves as capable girls. And It was in the era of the Hollywood power-suit woman—women were becoming heads of studios, but they were almost trying to be men about it, and we were like, 'We're just girls, but here's how we would make Charlie's Angels.' And we would show and make clip reels and prove ourselves, and so that there—we would leave no doubt or favors to be asked. And I think it's important for women to work hard at their dreams and to do it without anger, and I know this is a taboo thing to say in this time because it's ignited by anger. So I guess maybe there's a healthy anger and an unhealthy anger. But I can assure you that if you have the abilities and you stay positive and you don't expect things to be handed to you, but you really work towards them, all the greatness will come. Because I was never treated like a little girl who couldn't do it. Maybe I had to earn it, but earning is okay. I say take the positive and capable approach and be tireless about it. Never, ever, ever stop working. I'm like a crazy worker."

Starts at 4:46:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AcHXdIDsig

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You mean she doesn't have victimhood mentality? In this day and age?

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That's a great, balanced way to look at it. That it's overdue and wonderful, but that the focus should still be on earning places, as well as that good anger and bad anger stuff. That's great.

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As long as you're from Hollywood royalty and already a movie star for literally your whole life and apologise first by acknowledging to the guys in the room that you're "just a girl", you can get your Charlie's Angel reboot developed.

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Do you think it's that easy for a child star to transition into an adult career? Being a child star is the butt of a joke because the vast majority of them either have failed careers or failed lives as adults. If I want to learn how to be successful, I'd be looking for advice from the one who went on to earn over $100 million.

She had no father in the house and she was emancipated from her irresponsible mother by age 15. She was considered almost unemployable as a teen-ager because of her past scandals. She worked her way up through schlocky exploitation films and low-paying independent films like every other actress has to. After 5 years she finally landed a couple of breakthrough roles in the mid-'90s and used that leverage to get her own films produced. And she must have been a good producer because her first two films Never Been Kissed and Charlie's Angels were hits. Another message here is to start your own company and don't just work for other people, a message you'll hear often from self-made millionaires.

She's not going to get on there and brag that she had more looks, talent and intelligence than other people but we all know at least one of those is going to help you succeed in any career. But her overriding message that you can only achieve success through hard work is a common one you'll hear from successful people.

On top of that, her subtler message that women don't have to give up their femininity to compete with men is unmistakable. She also implies that there has not been some kind of overwhelming glass ceiling keeping women down in recent times. 25 years ago she was able to succeed as a woman in a male-dominated industry because she proved she could make money for the company. Plenty of other women have succeeded in various industries for decades by proving they were good at their jobs.

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Accurate analysis. Drew basically had a white trash childhood and overcame it. She never played the victim.

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"white trash childhood"?

She's "hollyweird" royalty.

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the two are not exclusive. You are confusing money and fame with behavior

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That's what people who adopt the term "hollyweird" are doing when they coin it.

You're dreaming if you think Drew didn't have any pull thanks to her fame and her family's hollywood stardom credentials. She also had the benefit of having friends like megastars Diaz and Liu keen to do the film. The studio execs she apologised to for being a girl must have thought christmas had come early.

I've no doubt that she's a nice person and didn't feel she needed to ask for special treatment in order to get a greenlight. But she's clearly showing signs of being susceptible to the narratives that those who testify to having faced a struggle are asking for preferential treatment over those who have achieved supposedly by being humble, deferential and harder working (which are implied to be the opposite of feminism).

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I was referring to what she said in the interview and how it's supposedly a Conservative message. She said she was nice and not angry. She never said anything about hard work. The suggestion that feminism is being promoted a substitute for hard work is ludicrous.

Drew was already a movie star when she got those two movies greenlit.

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Guess you haven't mastered your own anger.

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My experience has taught being positive is usually more productive and collaborative than not being positive, so I would say that approach is the tops. Regardless of who you are.

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She sounds like a rational grownup, which will probably get her cancelled.

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It's a great message.

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You gotta love Drew, such a good attitude and such a doll of a girl 😍

I do think she’d personally take exception to her words being described as a “conservative message” since she is very liberal in her outlook, but you certainly can’t fault the intent. She makes a fine point.

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I don't think she ment the speech to come out conservative. It's just that's the world we're currently living in. In that speech comes off conservative because of it.

Feminists have taken a unhealthy angry approach and don't like to talk about positively as much these days

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Working hard is a conservative message? Is that what old white rich men do? They work hard? Child please!!!

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