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Hero to the Left and Champion of Incest


How is Allen still remotely relevant, especially to the liberal left? Woody Allen was 57 years old when his wife, Mia Farrow, found nude pictures of their adopted daughter in Woody's possession. At that time Soon-Yi was between 17-18 years old (her exact age was never known and no birth certificate exists). What a guy! Huh? But he's so funny! Right?

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You're one of those miserable people who has to turn everything into a hunt for the liberal left angle. I always smile thinking that you are slowly killing yourself through soaking your body and mind in negativity that will eat your heart out and give you cancer. Your type needs to die off more quickly, the world is sick of having to click through hundreds of these hate-filled fact-free comments.

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"You're one of those miserable people who has to turn everything into a hunt for the liberal left angle."

That's because liberals are such horrible subhuman filth.

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"the world is sick of having to click through hundreds of these hate-filled fact-free comments"

When are you going to delete your account?

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You have a right to feel about him what you like, but at least get the facts straight. Woody and Mia were never married. Soon-Yi wasn't adopted by Woody (her father was Andre Previn). Soon-Yi was 19 or 21, depending on which source.

It's a creepy relationship to be sure. But please don't be one of the people spreading false facts, which already too many people believe. Base your opinion on the factual details.

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Shall we bring up the incident with Mia's other daughter Dylan? According to Wikipedia: "According to court testimony, on August 4, 1992, Allen visited the children at Mia Farrow's home in Bridgewater, Connecticut, while she was out shopping with a friend.[159] The following day, that friend's babysitter told her employer that she had seen Allen behaving inappropriately with Dylan.[167] When Farrow asked Dylan about it, Dylan alleged that Allen had touched Dylan's "private part" while they were alone together in the attic.[159] One woman employed to care for Farrow's children said that for about 20 minutes that afternoon she had not known where Dylan was, while a second said that, at one point, Dylan had been wearing no underwear under her dress.[167] Farrow told Dylan's pediatrician, who informed authorities."

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shannongr- yes, not only "never married", but a "couple" who lived separately for the 12 or so years that they were together.

They seemed to be the typical celebrity couple, living by their own rules, nothing conventional, making movies together, but not exactly making a home for the children.

People are free to live the way they want to. I don't even pretend to understand the "sophisticated" New York lifestyle they led. But something should have told Mia that having a relationship with a man for over a decade and adopting children with him without the benefit of matrimony is a dumb thing to do! Maybe she was fulfilled, but it hardly provided a stable home for her many children. And she tried her best to conceive another child with him.

That finally resulted in Satchel, aka, Ronan, who may or may not be Woody Allen's son depending on which fantasy Mia is telling.

According to her autobiography, 'What Falls Away', she suspected that she brought a "danger" into her family. Woody Allen was cold, disturbed and selfish.
So what the heck was she doing with him all those years, except starring in his movies? They weren't married. Why did she feel the need to allow this "dangerous" element into her family's life?

I could understand if she was an unskilled housewife dependent on a breadwinner who turned out to be abusive. But she certainly was financially well off not to need someone she describes as so awful.
I've always thought Woody Allen was a bit eccentric, but the more I read about Mia Farrow, the more I think she is a wacko. She need not have been a victim. But I think she enjoyed it in some perverse way.

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Allen is notoriously disturbed. Indeed, this has been his main brand for a long time and his early movies deal mainly with his own neuroses. Selfish and cold, it doesn't fit... I mean, not anymore than the common man. Directors who are assholes are quickly identified since there's many people working under their command, and Allen doesn't have the "asshole director" label.

As food for thoughts, at the end of the day the only couple that worked in the story is the Allen-SoonYi one, even with the big age difference. And it worked when Allen went from the standard Hollywood Star wannabe to a next door quiet woman who is not interested in being in the spotlight. There's a lesson there.

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I've never liked Woody Allen. He makes my skin crawl.

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I'm not a leftist and I think Woody Allen is an amazing director. The same way I love Spielberg, no matter I don't share his views, and the same way Spielberg loved John Ford (which I do too, by the way), no matter Ford was diametrically opposed to Spielberg. I miss that time when people cared about skill and not about sharing ideological views.

Besides that, your data are fake.
- She was not her adoptive daughter, neither they had any parent-daughter relation. She was the adoptive daughter from André Previn, former couple from Mia Farrow.
- She was not underage when Mia discovered the pictures neither when they went out together. If she had been under 18, there would have been a trial for statutory rape. Indeed, she was 19.

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"She was not her adoptive daughter, neither they had any parent-daughter relation".

No, she WAS the adopted mother. According to Wikipedia: "In 1978 FARROW and André Previn adopted Soon-Yi Previn, who had been abandoned in the slums of Seoul".

"Indeed, she was 19".

She did not have a birth certificate so there is no way to say exactly how old she was. Estimates based on a bone scan put her age between 17-19 at the time the pornographic photos were taken. If you want to defend Woody then go ahead and say she was 19. I find them man unredeemable so I will say she was 17.

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Woody Allen is a creep. He is a disgusting human being.

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deleted, this was the answer for fatdogtavern

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Agreed. If you defend Woody Allen in any way you are a monster, just like him.

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It's funny how the alt-right is always whingeing about 'leftists' trying to shut down debate and disallow opinions they disagree with. In fact, this is exactly what the right does, including you. When anyone questions or attempts to criticise the right's narrative, they are labelled anti-democratic and unpatriotic.

Similarly, if people question, with reasons and evidence, the accusations against Allen, they are personally attacked. This guilty-until-proven-innocent witch-hunt is disturbing on many levels. There are actual celebrity sex offenders who attract less vitriol than Allen, who was exonerated in a police investigation.

I'm not American, but the levels of irrationality in your public discourse and the polarised nature of your politics worries me, because your political, social and economic madness is exported around the world.

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>> No, she WAS the adopted mother.

Exactly. And in case Mia Farrow had banged Soon Yi, you could argue about incest. But that was not the case with Woody Allen, because he was not the father.

Banging a woman doesn't make you the father of the kids she previously had. If any woman told you so after banging her, she fooled you.

>> If you want to defend Woody then go ahead and say she was 19. I find them man unredeemable so I will say she was 17.

You can say she was 3 years old if that pleases you. The age she was assigned when she went to US makes her 19 when she dated Woody Allen.

Of course, there's that range you're talking about that could make her 17, so underage, the moment she dated him. The problem... according to the wiki, the source of that info is Mia Farrow. I haven't seen any other source in a quick google. So at the end of the day it all comes to the the same: are you willing to believe the Farrows with no other evidence?.

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Age of consent is mostly 16/17 in the US. Sexually repressed California is an exception.

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